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From: Oleksij Rempel <linux@rempel-privat.de>
To: radiotap@NetBSD.org, simon@superduper.net,
	johannes@sipsolutions.net, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
Cc: "ath9k-devel@lists.ath9k.org" <ath9k-devel@lists.ath9k.org>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Standardisation - adding 2 bit STBC and Ness to MCS
Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 16:34:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <518127ED.9060900@rempel-privat.de> (raw)

Hallo all,


> http://www.radiotap.org/suggested-fields/MCS%20extension%20for%20STBC%20and%20Ness
>
> I have posted 3 patches on the proposal page (see Attachments):
>
> 1. A patch that applies to the Linux kernel v3.7-rc1 to collect the new
> STBC and Ness parameters from a wireless driver, and add them into the
> MCS radiotap field.
> 2. A patch to the Intel wireless driver in the kernel to collect STBC
> and Ness information.
> 3. A patch to wireshark to display STBC and Ness information.
>
> With this I believe we have everything needed to start the 3 week
> comment period.

There is a bit more then 3 week now. I would like to have this approved :)
Are there any thing needed to finish this?

Beside, i have one question about how STBC work. According to differnet 
docs, i assume that:
- STBC is done by sending, at least, two stream with same data in 
different order.
- It means for me, that real use of STBC can be made only on MIMO hardware.
- If 1x1 receiver indicates that it got STBC encoded frame, it dos not 
meant, it would be able to use redundant data from second stream.
- There are fallowing STBC schemes: Alamouti’s
STBC for 2 transmit antennas and orthogonal STBC for 3 and 4 transmit 
antennas.

According to this information, what do we call 1,2 or 3 stream STBC?
Since STBC should have minimal 2 stream, but in same time we have 1x1 
and 2x2 hardware which able to receive and decode STBC stream i assume:
	- RX-STBC1 is for compatibility only. No data redundancy.
	- RX-STBC12 - can be used Alamouti’s schema with 2 streams. Mostly used 
method.
	- RX-STBC123 - is orthogonal schema and not widely used method. Since 
last method use wide spectrum to transmit data comparable to SISO 
stream, it makes almost no sense. But 3-stream method get optimal error 
corect in compare with 2 and 4 strea schemas.

Do this assumptions correct?

PS: My assumptions based on "MIMO Space-Time Block Coding (STBC):
Simulations and Results"
-- 
Regards,
Oleksij

             reply	other threads:[~2013-05-01 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-01 14:34 Oleksij Rempel [this message]
2013-05-02 20:44 ` Standardisation - adding 2 bit STBC and Ness to MCS Johannes Berg
2013-05-03 19:53   ` Patches for STBC Standartisation Oleksij Rempel
2013-05-03 19:53     ` [PATCH 1/3] mac80211: add STBC flag for radiotap Oleksij Rempel
2013-05-03 19:53     ` [PATCH 2/3] ath9k: remove useless flag conversation Oleksij Rempel
2013-05-03 19:53     ` [PATCH 3/3] ath9k: check for Rx-STBC flag and pass it to ieee80211 Oleksij Rempel
2013-05-03 19:53     ` [PATCH] tcpdump: add STBC Rx support Oleksij Rempel
2013-05-03 19:58       ` Guy Harris
2013-05-03 20:04         ` Oleksij Rempel
2013-05-04  6:22     ` Patch for radiotap library Oleksij Rempel
2013-05-07  7:40   ` Standardisation - adding 2 bit STBC and Ness to MCS Oleksij Rempel
2013-05-07 13:54     ` Johannes Berg
2013-05-07 13:55       ` Johannes Berg
2013-05-07 14:25         ` Oleksij Rempel
2013-05-07 14:59         ` Jonathan Bither
2013-05-07 15:03           ` Oleksij Rempel
2013-05-07 16:09             ` Jonathan Bither
2013-05-03 21:12 ` Simon Barber

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