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From: Felix Fietkau <nbd@openwrt.org>
To: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Cc: Sujith Manoharan <sujith@msujith.org>,
	"hostap@lists.shmoo.com" <hostap@lists.shmoo.com>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Always send management frames at MCS-0??
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 11:33:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <523038E8.2070806@openwrt.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <522F3F6B.2070203@candelatech.com>

On 2013-09-10 5:48 PM, Ben Greear wrote:
> On 09/10/2013 01:10 AM, Sujith Manoharan wrote:
>> Ben Greear wrote:
>>> I had a user request that we support always sending management frames
>>> (such as EAPOL) at the lowest rate.  Evidently, other equipment does this,
>>> where as normal-ish supplicant/linux tends to send them at much higher
>>> rates.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions on how to go about doing this properly?
>>
>> If this is with ath9k_rate_control, then it is a known bug:
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=927191
> 
> I'm not using ath9k rate control in this case, and at least most messages
> get through fine.  We didn't actually see any obvious improvement when forcing
> everything to 6Mbps, but since my user was asking, I wanted to run the
> idea past the list.
> 
> Rate control is not perfect, and on initial bringup it doesn't have
> many packets to work with so I thought it might still be useful to allow
> users to specify a particular rate for EAPOL packets.  Maybe using
> a socket ioctl so user-space (ie, supplicant/hostapd) can control it,
> for example.
minstrel and minstrel_ht always keep low rates in the rate retry chain
until enough higher rates have been proven to work.
I think adding an interface that allows user space to mess with the rate
selection of EAPOL packets is a bad idea - users will pretty much always
make worse rate decisions than the rate control module.

- Felix

      reply	other threads:[~2013-09-11  9:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-09 19:10 Always send management frames at MCS-0?? Ben Greear
2013-09-09 19:15 ` Krishna Chaitanya
2013-09-09 23:10   ` Ben Greear
2013-09-10  9:17     ` Krishna Chaitanya
2013-09-10 14:49       ` Dan Williams
2013-09-10  8:10 ` Sujith Manoharan
2013-09-10 15:48   ` Ben Greear
2013-09-11  9:33     ` Felix Fietkau [this message]

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