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From: Felix Fietkau <nbd@openwrt.org>
To: Karl Beldan <karl.beldan@gmail.com>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mac80211: use capped prob when computing throughputs
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:49:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <528CDA23.9090303@openwrt.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131120145035.GB9335@magnum.frso.rivierawaves.com>

On 2013-11-20 15:50, Karl Beldan wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 03:04:34PM +0100, Felix Fietkau wrote:
>> On 2013-11-20 14:56, Karl Beldan wrote:
>> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 08:32:32AM +0100, Felix Fietkau wrote:
>> >> On 2013-11-20 01:51, Karl Beldan wrote:
>> >> > From: Karl Beldan <karl.beldan@rivierawaves.com>
>> >> > 
>> >> > Commit 3e8b1eb "mac80211/minstrel_ht: improve rate selection stability"
>> >> > introduced a local capped prob in minstrel_ht_calc_tp but omitted to use
>> >> > it to compute the rate throughput.
>> >> > 
>> >> > Signed-off-by: Karl Beldan <karl.beldan@rivierawaves.com>
>> >> > CC: Felix Fietkau <nbd@openwrt.org>
>> >> Nice catch!
>> >> Acked-by: Felix Fietkau <nbd@openwrt.org>
>> >> 
>> > Interestingly enough, consecutive coding rates (5/6, 3/4, 2/3) max ratio
>> > is 9/10, did you do it on purpose ?  (e.g. (9/10) * (5/6) == 3/4,
>> > (9/10) * (3/4) == 2/3 + 11/120).
>> The change has nothing to do with coding rates, it's only about
>> retransmissions caused by collisions under load.
>> 
> I understand this, my point was that along with this comes the following:
> let's say my SNR is just not so good to get 5/6 as good as 3/4, and e.g.
> case1 htMCS7 has  91% 
>       htMCS6 has 100% success 
> case2 htMCS7 has  80% 
>       htMCS6 has 100% success 
> capping at 90% will prefer htMCS7 in case1 and htMCS6 in case2 both
> achieving best real throughput.
> capping at 80% will prefer htMCS7 in case1 _but_ htMCS7 in case2 the
> latter being the worst real throughput(90% of 5/6 == 100% of 3/4 > 80%
> of 5/6).
Not sure if that's a meaningful comparison at all - you're leaving out
the per-packet overhead, which is important for the throughput
calculation as well.

- Felix


  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-20 15:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-20  0:51 [PATCH] mac80211: use capped prob when computing throughputs Karl Beldan
2013-11-20  7:32 ` Felix Fietkau
2013-11-20 13:56   ` Karl Beldan
2013-11-20 14:04     ` Felix Fietkau
2013-11-20 14:50       ` Karl Beldan
2013-11-20 15:49         ` Felix Fietkau [this message]
2013-11-20 16:19           ` Karl Beldan
2013-11-20 17:32             ` Felix Fietkau
2013-11-20 17:53               ` Karl Beldan
2013-11-20 18:24                 ` Felix Fietkau
2013-11-20 16:57   ` Felix Fietkau
2013-11-20 17:03     ` Karl Beldan
2013-11-20 17:04     ` Karl Beldan
2013-11-20 17:37       ` Felix Fietkau

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