rtl8723ae owner.

rtl8723ae owner.

[Kam]

I have the rtl8723ae PCIe wifi card. I've read through the messages on the
forums and experience similar issues to others who have inquired about the
card. I experience sluggish connections and disconnects, I for the most
can't connect to my school wifi at all.  

I switched my router to 'AP' today after reading through the posts here and
initially the connection was faster than I've experienced thus far(since
switching to linux last year), I ended up shutting down the computer
eventually and after turning it back on few hours later, It was back to the
slow sluggish connection. 

I've collected all the output that I could think of and wanted to contribute
it in hopes that it can assist the devs in testing/debugging the issues with
the card. The text file is a little but over 800 lines, so I will post it on
fpaste, if this isn't acceptable please let me know and I will repost the
text in preferred format. I am about ready to smoke the beacons off this
thing :P.

http://www.fpaste.org/60680/38672606/

Thank you!

Kam

Re: rtl8723ae owner.

[Larry Finger]

On 12/10/2013 07:42 PM, Kam wrote:
> I have the rtl8723ae PCIe wifi card. I've read through the messages on the
> forums and experience similar issues to others who have inquired about the
> card. I experience sluggish connections and disconnects, I for the most
> can't connect to my school wifi at all.
>
> I switched my router to 'AP' today after reading through the posts here and
> initially the connection was faster than I've experienced thus far(since
> switching to linux last year), I ended up shutting down the computer
> eventually and after turning it back on few hours later, It was back to the
> slow sluggish connection.

What does switching the router to 'AP' mean? If it was not an AP before, you 
would never have been able to connect to it.

> I've collected all the output that I could think of and wanted to contribute
> it in hopes that it can assist the devs in testing/debugging the issues with
> the card. The text file is a little but over 800 lines, so I will post it on
> fpaste, if this isn't acceptable please let me know and I will repost the
> text in preferred format. I am about ready to smoke the beacons off this
> thing :P.

One thing missing in what you posted is any messages from dmesg that describe 
the disconnects.

The only thing I noted in your posting is that your channel is about as badly 
chosen as is possible. Wifi is not like TV. The channel spacing is 5 MHz, but 
the width for 802.11g is 20 MHz, and 802.11n is 40 MHz. If you do the math, your 
choice of channel 9 overlaps *every* AP in your neighborhood. At -60 dBm, your 
signal is not strong, and is even weaker than Home2.

I would choose a channel as low as possible. That would be #1 for 802.11g. Your 
AP may not allow lower than #3 for 802.11n.

Next, you might try loading the module with the option "ips=0". That will 
disable power save mode, and it might help.

I have been running a long-term test of rtl8723ae. After 100 hours, I have had a 
total of 11 disconnects. Each of them has reconnected with very little 
interruption in service. The difference is that my channel is chosen to have as 
little interference as possible, and my signal strength is -44 dBm.

Larry

Re: rtl8723ae owner.

[Kam]

Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@...> writes:

> 
> On 12/10/2013 07:42 PM, Kam wrote:
> > I have the rtl8723ae PCIe wifi card. I've read through the messages on the
> > forums and experience similar issues to others who have inquired about the
> > card. I experience sluggish connections and disconnects, I for the most
> > can't connect to my school wifi at all.
> >
> > I switched my router to 'AP' today after reading through the posts here and
> > initially the connection was faster than I've experienced thus far(since
> > switching to linux last year), I ended up shutting down the computer
> > eventually and after turning it back on few hours later, It was back to the
> > slow sluggish connection.
> 
> What does switching the router to 'AP' mean? If it was not an AP before, you 
> would never have been able to connect to it.
> 
> > I've collected all the output that I could think of and wanted to contribute
> > it in hopes that it can assist the devs in testing/debugging the issues with
> > the card. The text file is a little but over 800 lines, so I will post it on
> > fpaste, if this isn't acceptable please let me know and I will repost the
> > text in preferred format. I am about ready to smoke the beacons off this
> > thing :P.
> 
> One thing missing in what you posted is any messages from dmesg that describe 
> the disconnects.
> 
> The only thing I noted in your posting is that your channel is about as badly 
> chosen as is possible. Wifi is not like TV. The channel spacing is 5 MHz, but 
> the width for 802.11g is 20 MHz, and 802.11n is 40 MHz. If you do the
math, your 
> choice of channel 9 overlaps *every* AP in your neighborhood. At -60 dBm,
your 
> signal is not strong, and is even weaker than Home2.
> 
> I would choose a channel as low as possible. That would be #1 for 802.11g.
Your 
> AP may not allow lower than #3 for 802.11n.
> 
> Next, you might try loading the module with the option "ips=0". That will 
> disable power save mode, and it might help.
> 
> I have been running a long-term test of rtl8723ae. After 100 hours, I have
had a 
> total of 11 disconnects. Each of them has reconnected with very little 
> interruption in service. The difference is that my channel is chosen to
have as 
> little interference as possible, and my signal strength is -44 dBm.
> 
> Larry
> 
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Thank you for the prompt response, I really appreciate it. And I would like
to apologize ahead of time in case I mess up the format.

> What does switching the router to 'AP' mean? If it was not an AP before, you
> would never have been able to connect to it.

Unfortunately my router has a check box under Advanced > Advanced Setup >
Wireless Settings that switches the router to AP Mode. I looked into the
manual after seeing the posting here and it's how I discovered it. It was
never checked until today.

>From the manual:
"AP Mode. You can make the WNDR3400v2 function as an access point."
Page 77:
http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/WNDR3400V2/WNDR3400v2_UM_23JAN2013.pdf

> The only thing I noted in your posting is that your channel is about as badly 
> chosen as is possible.

Channel selection isn't done by me, it is set to "auto" mode at the router
settings which explains that it will choose the best channel. I appreciate
you pointing that out because now it will give me more options to play
around with. I have seen the ips posting else where and will test this once
I configure the channel. Thank you.

Kam

Re: rtl8723ae owner.

[Larry Finger]

On 12/10/2013 10:19 PM, Kam wrote:
> Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@...> writes:
>
>>
>> On 12/10/2013 07:42 PM, Kam wrote:
>>> I have the rtl8723ae PCIe wifi card. I've read through the messages on the
>>> forums and experience similar issues to others who have inquired about the
>>> card. I experience sluggish connections and disconnects, I for the most
>>> can't connect to my school wifi at all.
>>>
>>> I switched my router to 'AP' today after reading through the posts here and
>>> initially the connection was faster than I've experienced thus far(since
>>> switching to linux last year), I ended up shutting down the computer
>>> eventually and after turning it back on few hours later, It was back to the
>>> slow sluggish connection.
>>
>> What does switching the router to 'AP' mean? If it was not an AP before, you
>> would never have been able to connect to it.
>>
>>> I've collected all the output that I could think of and wanted to contribute
>>> it in hopes that it can assist the devs in testing/debugging the issues with
>>> the card. The text file is a little but over 800 lines, so I will post it on
>>> fpaste, if this isn't acceptable please let me know and I will repost the
>>> text in preferred format. I am about ready to smoke the beacons off this
>>> thing :P.
>>
>> One thing missing in what you posted is any messages from dmesg that describe
>> the disconnects.
>>
>> The only thing I noted in your posting is that your channel is about as badly
>> chosen as is possible. Wifi is not like TV. The channel spacing is 5 MHz, but
>> the width for 802.11g is 20 MHz, and 802.11n is 40 MHz. If you do the
> math, your
>> choice of channel 9 overlaps *every* AP in your neighborhood. At -60 dBm,
> your
>> signal is not strong, and is even weaker than Home2.
>>
>> I would choose a channel as low as possible. That would be #1 for 802.11g.
> Your
>> AP may not allow lower than #3 for 802.11n.
>>
>> Next, you might try loading the module with the option "ips=0". That will
>> disable power save mode, and it might help.
>>
>> I have been running a long-term test of rtl8723ae. After 100 hours, I have
> had a
>> total of 11 disconnects. Each of them has reconnected with very little
>> interruption in service. The difference is that my channel is chosen to
> have as
>> little interference as possible, and my signal strength is -44 dBm.
>>
>> Larry
>>
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>>
>>
>
>
>
> Thank you for the prompt response, I really appreciate it. And I would like
> to apologize ahead of time in case I mess up the format.
>
>> What does switching the router to 'AP' mean? If it was not an AP before, you
>> would never have been able to connect to it.
>
> Unfortunately my router has a check box under Advanced > Advanced Setup >
> Wireless Settings that switches the router to AP Mode. I looked into the
> manual after seeing the posting here and it's how I discovered it. It was
> never checked until today.
>
>>From the manual:
> "AP Mode. You can make the WNDR3400v2 function as an access point."
> Page 77:
> http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/WNDR3400V2/WNDR3400v2_UM_23JAN2013.pdf

I also have a WNDR3400V2, which has been functional as a 2.4/5 GHz AP for the 
two years that I have owned it, and that box has never been checked. I have no 
idea what might be its effect, but it certainly was an AP before you checked 
that box.

>> The only thing I noted in your posting is that your channel is about as badly
>> chosen as is possible.
>
> Channel selection isn't done by me, it is set to "auto" mode at the router
> settings which explains that it will choose the best channel. I appreciate
> you pointing that out because now it will give me more options to play
> around with. I have seen the ips posting else where and will test this once
> I configure the channel. Thank you.

I never select the auto channel selection. You never know what strong sources in 
your neighborhood might be off when it makes the choice.

Larry

Re: rtl8723ae owner.

[Pat Erley]

On 12/10/2013 10:34 PM, Larry Finger wrote:
> On 12/10/2013 10:19 PM, Kam wrote:
>> Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@...> writes:
>>
>>>
>>> On 12/10/2013 07:42 PM, Kam wrote:
>>>> I have the rtl8723ae PCIe wifi card. I've read through the messages
>>>> on the
>>>> forums and experience similar issues to others who have inquired
>>>> about the
>>>> card. I experience sluggish connections and disconnects, I for the most
>>>> can't connect to my school wifi at all.
>>>>
>>>> I switched my router to 'AP' today after reading through the posts
>>>> here and
>>>> initially the connection was faster than I've experienced thus
>>>> far(since
>>>> switching to linux last year), I ended up shutting down the computer
>>>> eventually and after turning it back on few hours later, It was back
>>>> to the
>>>> slow sluggish connection.
>>>
>>> What does switching the router to 'AP' mean? If it was not an AP
>>> before, you
>>> would never have been able to connect to it.
>>>
>>>> I've collected all the output that I could think of and wanted to
>>>> contribute
>>>> it in hopes that it can assist the devs in testing/debugging the
>>>> issues with
>>>> the card. The text file is a little but over 800 lines, so I will
>>>> post it on
>>>> fpaste, if this isn't acceptable please let me know and I will
>>>> repost the
>>>> text in preferred format. I am about ready to smoke the beacons off
>>>> this
>>>> thing :P.
>>>
>>> One thing missing in what you posted is any messages from dmesg that
>>> describe
>>> the disconnects.
>>>
>>> The only thing I noted in your posting is that your channel is about
>>> as badly
>>> chosen as is possible. Wifi is not like TV. The channel spacing is 5
>>> MHz, but
>>> the width for 802.11g is 20 MHz, and 802.11n is 40 MHz. If you do the
>> math, your
>>> choice of channel 9 overlaps *every* AP in your neighborhood. At -60
>>> dBm,
>> your
>>> signal is not strong, and is even weaker than Home2.
>>>
>>> I would choose a channel as low as possible. That would be #1 for
>>> 802.11g.
>> Your
>>> AP may not allow lower than #3 for 802.11n.
>>>
>>> Next, you might try loading the module with the option "ips=0". That
>>> will
>>> disable power save mode, and it might help.
>>>
>>> I have been running a long-term test of rtl8723ae. After 100 hours, I
>>> have
>> had a
>>> total of 11 disconnects. Each of them has reconnected with very little
>>> interruption in service. The difference is that my channel is chosen to
>> have as
>>> little interference as possible, and my signal strength is -44 dBm.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for the prompt response, I really appreciate it. And I would
>> like
>> to apologize ahead of time in case I mess up the format.
>>
>>> What does switching the router to 'AP' mean? If it was not an AP
>>> before, you
>>> would never have been able to connect to it.
>>
>> Unfortunately my router has a check box under Advanced > Advanced Setup >
>> Wireless Settings that switches the router to AP Mode. I looked into the
>> manual after seeing the posting here and it's how I discovered it. It was
>> never checked until today.
>>
>>> From the manual:
>> "AP Mode. You can make the WNDR3400v2 function as an access point."
>> Page 77:
>> http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/WNDR3400V2/WNDR3400v2_UM_23JAN2013.pdf
>>
>
> I also have a WNDR3400V2, which has been functional as a 2.4/5 GHz AP
> for the two years that I have owned it, and that box has never been
> checked. I have no idea what might be its effect, but it certainly was
> an AP before you checked that box.

I believe (had a similar wndr device) that it has something to do with 
the way the device bridges wifi to the lan/wan.  On mine, with it 
checked, I was able to use the device as a stand alone AP rather than an 
AP/Router.  Trying to do that without it checked enabled some additional 
firewalling on the lan/wifi bridge.

>
>>> The only thing I noted in your posting is that your channel is about
>>> as badly
>>> chosen as is possible.
>>
>> Channel selection isn't done by me, it is set to "auto" mode at the
>> router
>> settings which explains that it will choose the best channel. I
>> appreciate
>> you pointing that out because now it will give me more options to play
>> around with. I have seen the ips posting else where and will test this
>> once
>> I configure the channel. Thank you.
>
> I never select the auto channel selection. You never know what strong
> sources in your neighborhood might be off when it makes the choice.
>
> Larry
>
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