* Fwd: RTL8723ae PCI Driver update
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@ 2014-01-02 20:46 ` Chris Taylor
2014-01-02 21:26 ` Larry Finger
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Chris Taylor @ 2014-01-02 20:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: linux-wireless
Larry,
Thank you for your reply and filling me on the correct netiquette re:
driver mailing lists.
The PCI ID I have is 10ec:8723, but the built-in version seems to
suffer from the slow data rates, poor signal reception and regular
dropouts that many users seems to be experiencing with this chipset
(at least going by e.g. the Ubuntu forums). I wanted to try compiling
my own module from the Realtek source but I think I need a patch to
get that to work in kernel 3.11? But I also wondered if it were worth
trying a later kernel to see if any of the regular updates have
improved things?
Thank you for your help.
Chris
On 2 January 2014 17:58, Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net> wrote:
>
> On 01/02/2014 03:17 AM, Chris Taylor wrote:
>>
>> Hi Larry,
>>
>> Sorry to contact you out of the blue, but I wondered if you could quickly answer
>> a question about Linux drivers for the RTL8723 wireless chipset:
>>
>> Have the native kernel drivers been updated recently, and if so, in which kernel?
>>
>> (I recently downloaded the latest drivers from the Realtek website, but could
>> not get them to compile on a 3.11 kernel.)
>
>
> Chris,
>
> When you contact the listed author of a driver, it is proper netiquette to Cc the appropriate mailing list. In this case linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org would be correct.
>
> That driver was added to the 3.8 kernel, and there have been updates in most kernels since. Does the built-in version not work for you? If your PCI ID is 10ec:b723, that device requires a different driver. I am working on it, but it is not yet ready.
>
> Larry
>
>
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* Re: RTL8723ae PCI Driver update
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2014-01-02 20:46 ` Fwd: RTL8723ae PCI Driver update Chris Taylor
@ 2014-01-02 21:26 ` Larry Finger
2014-01-03 21:14 ` Chris Taylor
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Larry Finger @ 2014-01-02 21:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Chris Taylor; +Cc: linux-wireless
On 01/02/2014 02:44 PM, Chris Taylor wrote:
> Larry,
>
> Thank you for your reply and filling me on the correct netiquette re: driver
> mailing lists.
>
> The PCI ID I have is 10ec:8723, but the built-in version seems to suffer from
> the slow data rates, poor signal reception and regular dropouts that many users
> seems to be experiencing with this chipset (at least going by e.g. the Ubuntu
> forums). I wanted to try compiling my own module from the Realtek source but I
> think I need a patch to get that to work in kernel 3.11? But I also wondered if
> it were worth trying a later kernel to see if any of the regular updates have
> improved things?
As I cannot duplicate the results that Ubuntu users seem to have, I don't know
if there are changes that will help.
It seems to me that there is something in the Ubuntu user code that is having
problems. I run openSUSE KDE with NetworkManages, and I never have any of those
difficulties.
Although no changes in rtl8723ae come to mind, there are many changes in the
mca80211 stack. It is always worthwhile to try a newer kernel, or the backports
source if you do not want to build a whole new kernel.
Larry
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* Re: RTL8723ae PCI Driver update
2014-01-02 21:26 ` Larry Finger
@ 2014-01-03 21:14 ` Chris Taylor
2014-01-03 21:30 ` Larry Finger
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Chris Taylor @ 2014-01-03 21:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Larry Finger; +Cc: linux-wireless
OK, I wasn't aware that it was only a Ubuntu issue. Sorry if it's
sounded like I've criticised your work on the current driver - I
assumed it was an issue affecting all. I've tried the 3.12.6 kernel
but didn't notice any significant difference.
Would you recommend filing a bug report with Ubuntu? If so, do you
have any inkling where the Ubuntu devs should start looking for the
problem?
Thanks,
Chris
On 2 January 2014 21:26, Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net> wrote:
> On 01/02/2014 02:44 PM, Chris Taylor wrote:
>>
>> Larry,
>>
>> Thank you for your reply and filling me on the correct netiquette re:
>> driver
>> mailing lists.
>>
>> The PCI ID I have is 10ec:8723, but the built-in version seems to suffer
>> from
>> the slow data rates, poor signal reception and regular dropouts that many
>> users
>> seems to be experiencing with this chipset (at least going by e.g. the
>> Ubuntu
>> forums). I wanted to try compiling my own module from the Realtek source
>> but I
>> think I need a patch to get that to work in kernel 3.11? But I also
>> wondered if
>> it were worth trying a later kernel to see if any of the regular updates
>> have
>> improved things?
>
>
> As I cannot duplicate the results that Ubuntu users seem to have, I don't
> know if there are changes that will help.
>
> It seems to me that there is something in the Ubuntu user code that is
> having problems. I run openSUSE KDE with NetworkManages, and I never have
> any of those difficulties.
>
> Although no changes in rtl8723ae come to mind, there are many changes in the
> mca80211 stack. It is always worthwhile to try a newer kernel, or the
> backports source if you do not want to build a whole new kernel.
>
> Larry
>
>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: RTL8723ae PCI Driver update
2014-01-03 21:14 ` Chris Taylor
@ 2014-01-03 21:30 ` Larry Finger
2014-01-03 22:06 ` Chris Taylor
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Larry Finger @ 2014-01-03 21:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Chris Taylor; +Cc: linux-wireless
On 01/03/2014 03:14 PM, Chris Taylor wrote:
> OK, I wasn't aware that it was only a Ubuntu issue. Sorry if it's
> sounded like I've criticised your work on the current driver - I
> assumed it was an issue affecting all. I've tried the 3.12.6 kernel
> but didn't notice any significant difference.
>
> Would you recommend filing a bug report with Ubuntu? If so, do you
> have any inkling where the Ubuntu devs should start looking for the
> problem?
It may not only be an issue with Ubuntu; however, I am not aware of problems
posted elsewhere. I am also aware that Ubuntu user space has a lot more trouble
than I see with NetworkManager on openSUSE. I doubt that the Ubuntu devs would
do much with a bug report.
Have you tried the backports package? It has material that will be in 3.14. If
that still has the same problem, then I would need to see whatever diagnostics
that your system outputs. As I am not an Ubuntu user, I have no idea where it
might be. The stuff from dmesg is a help, but not usually definitive. What
make/model of AP are you using? Is the firmware up to date? What encryption mode
do you use, and is it 802.11n or g?
Larry
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: RTL8723ae PCI Driver update
2014-01-03 21:30 ` Larry Finger
@ 2014-01-03 22:06 ` Chris Taylor
2014-01-03 23:23 ` Larry Finger
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Chris Taylor @ 2014-01-03 22:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Larry Finger; +Cc: linux-wireless
Which backports package are you referring to? I can only see a few
listed here (http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy-backports/).
My AP is a Technicolor TG582n, latest firmware - but my Windows 8.1
tablet has no problems connecting in locations round the house where
my Kubuntu laptop struggles. I don't think I've got an option on the
encryption mode - it's listed as 802.11b/g/n, which I guess means n.
I've got another AP I could try somewhere - I'd not thought of trying
that since my Windows machines seem to pick up the signal fine. But it
might be worth a go.
Chris
On 3 January 2014 21:30, Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net> wrote:
> On 01/03/2014 03:14 PM, Chris Taylor wrote:
>>
>> OK, I wasn't aware that it was only a Ubuntu issue. Sorry if it's
>> sounded like I've criticised your work on the current driver - I
>> assumed it was an issue affecting all. I've tried the 3.12.6 kernel
>> but didn't notice any significant difference.
>>
>> Would you recommend filing a bug report with Ubuntu? If so, do you
>> have any inkling where the Ubuntu devs should start looking for the
>> problem?
>
>
> It may not only be an issue with Ubuntu; however, I am not aware of problems
> posted elsewhere. I am also aware that Ubuntu user space has a lot more
> trouble than I see with NetworkManager on openSUSE. I doubt that the Ubuntu
> devs would do much with a bug report.
>
> Have you tried the backports package? It has material that will be in 3.14.
> If that still has the same problem, then I would need to see whatever
> diagnostics that your system outputs. As I am not an Ubuntu user, I have no
> idea where it might be. The stuff from dmesg is a help, but not usually
> definitive. What make/model of AP are you using? Is the firmware up to date?
> What encryption mode do you use, and is it 802.11n or g?
>
> Larry
>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: RTL8723ae PCI Driver update
2014-01-03 22:06 ` Chris Taylor
@ 2014-01-03 23:23 ` Larry Finger
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Larry Finger @ 2014-01-03 23:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Chris Taylor; +Cc: linux-wireless
On 01/03/2014 04:06 PM, Chris Taylor wrote:
> Which backports package are you referring to? I can only see a few
> listed here (http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy-backports/).
>
> My AP is a Technicolor TG582n, latest firmware - but my Windows 8.1
> tablet has no problems connecting in locations round the house where
> my Kubuntu laptop struggles. I don't think I've got an option on the
> encryption mode - it's listed as 802.11b/g/n, which I guess means n.
>
> I've got another AP I could try somewhere - I'd not thought of trying
> that since my Windows machines seem to pick up the signal fine. But it
> might be worth a go.
If you want the latest backports code, go to
http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/ and get the
latest. You will need to build it yourself. The saucy-backports package is
probably not for wifi.
The manual for the AP says that it uses WPA2 as the default. It has 802.11n
capability and probably is running in 802.11g+n mode.
Larry
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