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From: Denis Kenzior <denkenz@gmail.com>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	Andrew Zaborowski <andrew.zaborowski@intel.com>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] cfg80211: NL80211_ATTR_SOCKET_OWNER support for CMD_CONNECT
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 00:40:57 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5847AEF9.90409@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1481091301.4092.5.camel@sipsolutions.net>

Hi Johannes,

On 12/07/2016 12:15 AM, Johannes Berg wrote:
>
>> I'm afraid to consider what you're like when you _are_ 'super'
>> against something :)
>
> Why, that's easy, there wouldn't be a long discussion like that ;-)

lol

>
> No, this is the part you didn't understand. Simply authenticating
> doesn't actually create anything like a "link" to the AP. The only

Okay, but it is then a bit misleading that iw link reports us being 
'connected' during this time for example.

> reason we keep the station entry around for a few seconds is that it
> *probably* will be used next to associate. But if you don't do that, or
> authenticate to some other AP, or do whatever else - nothing stops you
> from doing that. There's no connection, nothing really stays active
> except for this 5 second grace period to associate.
>
> So even if you crash here like in the example, there's nothing to clean
> up, a subsequent authentication attempt to the same or another AP will
> go through anyway.
>
> Therefore, there's nothing to "own" with an authentication attempt,
> since it doesn't actually keep any (permanent) state in the kernel, and
> keeping the station entry around is just an optimisation.
>
> I don't think it's worth trying to clean that up.

Fair enough.  I think we can live with that since we're not using 
CMD_AUTHENTICATE unless we need to roam using FT.

Regards,
-Denis

  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-07  6:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-02 20:56 [PATCH][RFC] cfg80211: NL80211_ATTR_SOCKET_OWNER support for CMD_CONNECT Andrew Zaborowski
2016-12-05 13:51 ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-05 14:55   ` Denis Kenzior
2016-12-05 14:58     ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-05 15:05       ` Denis Kenzior
2016-12-05 15:14         ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-05 15:32           ` Denis Kenzior
2016-12-06  7:16             ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-06 21:42               ` Denis Kenzior
2016-12-07  1:40                 ` Andrew Zaborowski
2016-12-07  6:19                   ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-07  9:49                     ` Andrew Zaborowski
2016-12-07  6:15                 ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-07  6:40                   ` Denis Kenzior [this message]
2016-12-07  6:48                     ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-07  7:07                       ` Denis Kenzior
2016-12-07  7:38                         ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-05 15:40           ` Marcel Holtmann

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