From: Christian Lamparter <chunkeey@gmail.com>
To: Masi Osmani <mas-i@hotmail.de>
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/12] carl9170: skip cross-band channel changes during software scan
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2026 22:58:35 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <73153743-e0e8-4f2d-8774-066f53460511@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM7PPF5613FA0B68A6825857195D5EF51B59443A@AM7PPF5613FA0B6.EURP251.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
On 3/15/26 11:56 PM, Masi Osmani wrote:
> The carl9170 relies on mac80211 software scanning because it does not
> implement a hw_scan callback. During a scan, mac80211 iterates all
> supported channels across both bands, calling carl9170_op_config()
> with IEEE80211_CONF_CHANGE_CHANNEL for each one.
>
> Every channel change triggers a full baseband cold reset, RF bank
> re-initialisation and AGC calibration via the firmware RF_INIT command
> with a 200 ms timeout. Cross-band switches (2.4 GHz <-> 5 GHz) are
> especially expensive and error-prone: the AGC calibration frequently
> times out (firmware returns error code 2), leaving the PHY in a
> degraded state. Subsequent channel changes -- even within the same
> band -- then also fail, and after three consecutive failures the
> driver restarts the device, causing a multi-second connectivity gap.
>
> When the adapter is associated on a specific band, scanning channels
> on the other band produces no useful roaming candidates for the
> current BSS. Add sw_scan_start/sw_scan_complete callbacks to track
> the scanning state and skip cross-band channel changes while a
> software scan is in progress. Intentional cross-band association
> changes (e.g. roaming from 2.4 GHz to 5 GHz on a dual-band SSID)
> are not affected because they occur outside the scanning window.
>
> Tested on Fritz\!WLAN N (AR9170) with 2.4 GHz association and
> concurrent full-band scans: no channel change failures, no device
> restarts, no PHY corruption.
Dealing with hardware misbehaving... Yeah!
I always suspected that the reason for this misbehaving are clock glitches.
This is because the whole device gets reclocked when switching between 2.4GHz (44/88MHz)
and 5GHz (40/80MHz) band and also HT40 (88/80MHz) vs HT20/Legacy(40/44MHz) too).
I do see the point here and I can confirm that to this day, this causes the
described annoyances.
@Johannes: Is this "stay within the band" something the driver should do,
or could this be moved up to mac80211/cfg80211?
(The way I did it was with wpa_supplicant since it allows one to specifiy
the scanning frequencies with scan_freq ... or even limit the frequencies
with freq_list. That said, this doesn't work great with NetworkManager
and the likes)
>
> Signed-off-by: Masi Osmani <mas-i@hotmail.de>
> ---
> drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/carl9170.h | 1 +
> drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/main.c | 42 +++++++++++++++++++
> 2 files changed, 43 insertions(+)
>
> --- a/drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/carl9170.h 2026-03-15 23:51:23.598565789 +0100
> +++ b/drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/carl9170.h 2026-03-15 23:51:39.769123563 +0100
> @@ -333,6 +333,7 @@ struct ar9170 {
> /* PHY */
> struct ieee80211_channel *channel;
> unsigned int num_channels;
> + bool scanning;
> int noise[4];
> unsigned int chan_fail;
> unsigned int total_chan_fail;
> --- a/drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/main.c 2026-03-15 23:51:23.597355728 +0100
> +++ b/drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/main.c 2026-03-15 23:52:02.845563524 +0100
> @@ -916,6 +916,33 @@ static int carl9170_op_config(struct iee
> enum nl80211_channel_type channel_type =
> cfg80211_get_chandef_type(&hw->conf.chandef);
>
> + /*
> + * Skip cross-band channel changes during software scan.
> + *
> + * mac80211 sw_scan iterates all channels including the
> + * other band. Each channel change requires a full BB
> + * cold reset and AGC calibration via the firmware RF_INIT
> + * command (200 ms timeout). Cross-band switches
> + * frequently cause AGC calibration timeouts (firmware
> + * returns error 2), leaving the PHY in a degraded state
> + * that cascades into failures on subsequent intra-band
> + * channel changes and ultimately triggers a device
> + * restart after three consecutive failures.
> + *
> + * When associated, scanning the other band yields no
> + * useful roaming candidates for the current BSS. Skip
> + * the channel change so mac80211 advances to the next
> + * scan channel harmlessly.
> + */
> + if (ar->scanning && ar->channel &&
> + hw->conf.chandef.chan->band != ar->channel->band) {
> + wiphy_dbg(ar->hw->wiphy,
> + "skip cross-band scan: %d MHz -> %d MHz\n",
> + ar->channel->center_freq,
> + hw->conf.chandef.chan->center_freq);
> + goto out;
> + }
> +
> /* adjust slot time for 5 GHz */
> err = carl9170_set_slot_time(ar);
> if (err)
> @@ -954,6 +981,27 @@ out:
> return err;
> }
>
> +static void carl9170_op_sw_scan_start(struct ieee80211_hw *hw,
> + struct ieee80211_vif *vif,
> + const u8 *mac_addr)
> +{
> + struct ar9170 *ar = hw->priv;
> +
> + mutex_lock(&ar->mutex);
> + ar->scanning = true;
> + mutex_unlock(&ar->mutex);
> +}
> +
> +static void carl9170_op_sw_scan_complete(struct ieee80211_hw *hw,
> + struct ieee80211_vif *vif)
> +{
> + struct ar9170 *ar = hw->priv;
> +
> + mutex_lock(&ar->mutex);
> + ar->scanning = false;
> + mutex_unlock(&ar->mutex);
> +}
> +
> static u64 carl9170_op_prepare_multicast(struct ieee80211_hw *hw,
> struct netdev_hw_addr_list *mc_list)
> {
> @@ -1723,6 +1771,8 @@ static const struct ieee80211_ops carl91
> .add_interface = carl9170_op_add_interface,
> .remove_interface = carl9170_op_remove_interface,
> .config = carl9170_op_config,
> + .sw_scan_start = carl9170_op_sw_scan_start,
> + .sw_scan_complete = carl9170_op_sw_scan_complete,
> .prepare_multicast = carl9170_op_prepare_multicast,
> .configure_filter = carl9170_op_configure_filter,
> .conf_tx = carl9170_op_conf_tx,
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-21 21:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-15 22:56 [PATCH 11/12] carl9170: skip cross-band channel changes during software scan Masi Osmani
2026-03-21 21:58 ` Christian Lamparter [this message]
2026-03-23 8:17 ` Johannes Berg
2026-03-23 8:21 ` Johannes Berg
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2026-03-17 9:10 Masi Osmani
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