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From: Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>
To: Emmanuel Grumbach <emmanuel.grumbach@intel.com>
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 2/7] iwlwifi: mei: add the driver to allow cooperation with CSME
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 14:06:53 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lf2qvbg2.fsf@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210811105541.43426-2-emmanuel.grumbach@intel.com> (Emmanuel Grumbach's message of "Wed, 11 Aug 2021 13:55:36 +0300")

Emmanuel Grumbach <emmanuel.grumbach@intel.com> writes:

> CSME in two words
> -----------------
> CSME stands for Converged Security and Management Engine. It is
> a CPU on the chipset and runs a dedicated firmware.
> AMT (Active Management Technology) is one of the applications
> that run on that CPU. AMT allows to control the platform remotely.
> Here is a partial list of the use cases:
> * View the screen of the plaform, with keyboard and mouse (KVM)
> * Attach a remote IDE device
> * Have a serial console to the device
> * Query the state of the platform
> * Reset / shut down / boot the platform
>
> Networking in CSME
> ------------------
> For those uses cases, CSME's firmware has an embedded network
> stack and is able to use the network devices of the system: LAN
> and WLAN. This is thanks to the CSME's firmware WLAN driver.
>
> One can add a profile (SSID / key / certificate) to the CSME's OS
> and CSME will connect to that profile. Then, one can use the WLAN
> link to access the applications that run on CSME (AMT is one of
> them). Note that CSME is active during power state and power state
> transitions. For example, it is possible to have a KVM session
> open to the system while the system is rebooting and actually
> configure the BIOS remotely over WLAN thanks to AMT.
>
> How all this is related to Linux
> --------------------------------
> In Linux, there is a driver that allows the OS to talk to the
> CSME firmware, this driver is drivers/misc/mei. This driver
> advertises a bus that allows other kernel drivers or even user
> space) to talk to components inside the CSME firmware.
> In practice, the system advertises a PCI device that allows
> to send / receive data to / from the CSME firmware. The mei
> bus drivers in drivers/misc/mei is an abstration on top of
> this PCI device.
> The driver being added here is called iwlmei and talks to the
> WLAN driver inside the CSME firmware through the mei bus driver.
> Note that the mei bus driver only gives bus services, it doesn't
> define the content of the communication.
>
> Why do we need this driver?
> --------------------------
> CSME uses the same WLAN device that the OS is expecting to see
> hence we need an arbitration mechanism. This is what iwlmei is
> in charge of. iwlmei maintains the communication with the CSME
> firmware's WLAN driver. The language / protocol that is used
> between the CSME's firmware WLAN driver and iwlmei is OS agnostic
> and is called SAP which stands for Software Abritration Protocol.
> With SAP, iwlmei will be able to tell the CSME firmware's WLAN
> driver:
> 1) Please give me the device.
> 2) Please note that the SW/HW rfkill state change.
> 3) Please note that I am now associated to X.
> 4) Please note that I received this packet.
> etc...
>
> There are messages that go the opposite direction as well:
> 1) Please note that AMT is en/disable.
> 2) Please note that I believe the OS is broken and hence I'll take
>    the device *now*, whether you like it or not, to make sure that
>    connectivity is preserved.
> 3) Please note that I am willing to give the device if the OS
>    needs it.
> 4) Please give me any packet that is sent on UDP / TCP on IP address
>    XX.XX.XX.XX and an port ZZ.
> 5) Please send this packet.
> etc...
>
> Please check drivers/net/wireless/intel/iwlwifi/mei/sap.h for the
> full protocol specification.
>
> Arbitration is not the only purpose of iwlmei and SAP. SAP also
> allows to maintain the AMT's functionality even when the OS owns
> the device. To connect to AMT, one needs to initiate an HTTP
> connection to port 16992. iwlmei will listen to the Rx path and
> forward (through SAP) to the CSME firmware the data it got. Then,
> the embedded HTTP server in the chipset will reply to the request
> and send a SAP notification to ask iwlmei to send the reply.
> This way, AMT running on the CSME can still work.
>
> In practice this means that all the use cases quoted above (KVM,
> remote IDE device, etc...) will work even when the OS uses the
> WLAN device.
>
> How to disable all this?
> ---------------------------
> iwlmei won't be able to do anything if the CSME's networking stack
> is not enabled. By default, CSME's networking stack is disabled (this
> is a BIOS setting).
> In case the CSME's networking stack is disabled, iwlwifi will just
> get access to the device because there is no contention with any other
> actor and, hence, no arbitration is needed.
>
> In this patch, I only add the iwlmei driver. Integration with
> iwlwifi will be implemented in the next one.
>
> Co-Developed-by: Ayala Beker <ayala.beker@intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Emmanuel Grumbach <emmanuel.grumbach@intel.com>

s-o-b missing from Ayala, same problem also in other patches in this
patchset.

https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/submitting-patches.html#when-to-use-acked-by-cc-and-co-developed-by

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https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-wireless/list/

https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/developers/documentation/submittingpatches

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-18 11:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-11 10:55 [PATCH v6 1/7] mei: bus: add client dma interface Emmanuel Grumbach
2021-08-11 10:55 ` [PATCH v6 2/7] iwlwifi: mei: add the driver to allow cooperation with CSME Emmanuel Grumbach
2021-10-18  9:28   ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-18  9:40     ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2021-10-18 11:17       ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2021-10-20  8:21         ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-18 10:56   ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-18 11:03     ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2021-10-20  8:30       ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-20  9:44         ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2021-11-10  9:40           ` Kalle Valo
2021-11-10  9:51             ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2021-11-12  6:21               ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-18 11:06   ` Kalle Valo [this message]
2021-10-18 19:17     ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2021-10-20  5:10       ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2021-08-11 10:55 ` [PATCH v6 3/7] iwlwifi: mei: add debugfs hooks Emmanuel Grumbach
2021-08-11 10:55 ` [PATCH v6 4/7] iwlwifi: integrate with iwlmei Emmanuel Grumbach
2021-10-18 11:03   ` Kalle Valo
2021-08-11 10:55 ` [PATCH v6 5/7] nl80211: vendor-cmd: add Intel vendor commands for iwlmei usage Emmanuel Grumbach
2021-10-18 11:16   ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-18 11:34     ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2021-08-11 10:55 ` [PATCH v6 6/7] iwlwifi: mvm: add vendor commands needed for iwlmei Emmanuel Grumbach
2021-10-18 11:19   ` Kalle Valo
2021-08-11 10:55 ` [PATCH v6 7/7] iwlwifi: mvm: read the rfkill state and feed it to iwlmei Emmanuel Grumbach
2021-10-18 11:20   ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-18 11:23     ` Emmanuel Grumbach

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