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From: Kalle Valo <kalle.valo@nokia.com>
To: "Johannes Berg" <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: Vivek Natarajan <vnatarajan@atheros.com>, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] mac80211: Enhancements to dynamic power save.
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:52:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87skp76gfp.fsf@nokia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1228132431.3478.21.camel@johannes.berg> (ext Johannes Berg's message of "Mon\, 01 Dec 2008 12\:53\:51 +0100")

Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net> writes:

> On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 17:17 -0800, Vivek Natarajan wrote:
>> This patch is based on Kalle's initial RFC patches on dynamic power save.
>> Since ath9k/ath5k,stlc45xx and b43 need the driver to send the null
>> frame, it is appropriate to do it from mac80211. 
>> This patch enables mac80211 to send a null frame and also to
>> check for tim in the beacon if power save is enabled.
>
> Nice! Looks pretty much good to me, but could use some documentation
> (Kalle will hopefully add some too).

I'm adding some documentation in my next round of patches, but we
definitely need more documentation.

> For instance, a casual observer might wonder how the hardware can be
> saving power when the host software has to parse beacons --

Even without beacon filtering and if there is no traffic, we can turn
off the radios for the time between beacons. For example, with beacon
interval 100 ms and dtim 1 the radios might be turned on for only 10
ms per dtim period. So 90% of the time the radios would be turned off
and we would save power. Of course this is very much hardware
specific, but just to give an idea.

> obviously things will only fall into place once we support beacon
> miss offload.

Beacon filtering improves cpu power consumption.

-- 
Kalle Valo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-12-01 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-02  1:17 [RFC] mac80211: Enhancements to dynamic power save Vivek Natarajan
2008-12-01 11:53 ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-01 15:08   ` Vivek Natarajan
2008-12-01 15:55     ` Kalle Valo
2008-12-01 15:52   ` Kalle Valo [this message]
2008-12-01 23:53   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-12-01 12:05 ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-01 16:17   ` Kalle Valo
2008-12-01 17:00     ` Tomas Winkler
2008-12-02 12:58       ` Vivek Natarajan
2008-12-02 14:29         ` Tomas Winkler
2008-12-01 15:42 ` Kalle Valo
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-12-23  4:44 Vivek Natarajan
2008-12-22 17:12 ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-23 12:50   ` Vivek Natarajan
2008-12-23 20:33 ` Kalle Valo

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