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From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <lrodriguez@atheros.com>
To: Bruno Randolf <br1@einfach.org>
Cc: "ath5k-devel@lists.ath5k.org" <ath5k-devel@lists.ath5k.org>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linville@tuxdriver.com" <linville@tuxdriver.com>
Subject: Re: [ath5k-devel] [PATCH v2 13/20] cfg80211: Add nl80211 antenna configuration
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 22:17:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTilG3c2UDEQa66PMvKysRVTt_dd-ZAS8FiDOe4Ob@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201005201121.49846.br1@einfach.org>

>> > that's not very clear. can you give me an example?
>>
>> iw dev wlan0 set_tx_antenna 4
>
> so you want to transmit on antenna 3. if the card has 3 antennas -
> why not?

None of the legacy 802.11 drivers we support have more than 2
antennas, I am also not aware of any.

>> > what if there is a 'legacy' hardware with 3 or more antennas?
>>
>> Like what?
>
> i can't find an actual real world example for that, but it thought it might be
> possible, from what i know from the atheros eeprom which seems to be prepared
> for up to 6 antennas.

That's for 802.11n, I think it'd be much cleaner to treat that
separately. But -- I can think of using an 802.11n device in legacy
mode of operation using specific antennas.... so there's your example
of a valid case for this.

>> > i don't see how "my" API is too complicated, and i think it allows for a
>> > clear configuration of these cases as well.
>> >
>> > your criticism seems to be based on the fact that it's not clear how to
>> > handle 802.11n chainmask + antenna configuration, but this is not what
>> > my patch is concerned about. let's go step by step...
>>
>> No no, that is my fault, I brought that up, I was hoping we could
>> address it but it seems that we can't as I don't have time to think
>> about this further in a unified clean API. But if its just going to be
>> legacy then I don't see why we would use a large bitmap.
>
> i wanted it to be easily extensibe for 802.11n

If we do want to address 802.11n then I say we go back to the drawing
board and really think about how antennas settings work for 802.11n
and consider chainmask settings.

> and possibly 'legacy' with more antennas in the future.

Legacy devices are dead. I don't know anyone in the industry making
them, the 1 stream 802.11n devices are cheaper today, so there is no
point in the market for it.

> if there really are not any pre-N cards with more than
> 2 antennas out there,

Yup, I think this is the case :)

> and we are sure we don't want to support more than 2
> antennas - well, we could save 6 bits... is it really worth it?

You're right, then if you really don't mind lets think 802.11n through
well then.

  Luis

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-20  5:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-19  1:30 [PATCH v2 00/20] pending ath5k + antenna patches Bruno Randolf
2010-05-19  1:30 ` [PATCH v2 01/20] ath5k: add debugfs file for queue debugging Bruno Randolf
2010-05-19  1:30 ` [PATCH v2 02/20] ath5k: wake queues on reset Bruno Randolf
2010-05-20 12:51   ` [ath5k-devel] " Nick Kossifidis
2010-05-19  1:30 ` [PATCH v2 03/20] ath5k: initialize calibration timers Bruno Randolf
2010-05-20 12:48   ` Nick Kossifidis
2010-05-19  1:31 ` [PATCH v2 04/20] ath5k: move noise floor calibration into tasklet Bruno Randolf
2010-05-20 12:50   ` Nick Kossifidis
2010-05-19  1:31 ` [PATCH v2 05/20] ath5k: Stop queues only for NF calibration Bruno Randolf
2010-05-20 12:52   ` Nick Kossifidis
2010-05-19  1:31 ` [PATCH v2 06/20] ath5k: run NF calibration only every 60 seconds Bruno Randolf
2010-05-19  1:31 ` [PATCH v2 07/20] ath5k: remove ATH_TRACE macro Bruno Randolf
2010-05-20 12:56   ` Nick Kossifidis
2010-05-19  1:31 ` [PATCH v2 08/20] ath5k: clarify logic when to enable spur mitigation filter Bruno Randolf
2010-05-19  1:31 ` [PATCH v2 09/20] ath5k: use ath5k_softc as driver data Bruno Randolf
2010-05-19  1:31 ` [PATCH v2 10/20] ath5k: add sysfs files for ANI parameters Bruno Randolf
2010-05-20 12:58   ` Nick Kossifidis
2010-05-19  1:31 ` [PATCH v2 11/20] ath5k: always calculate ANI listen time Bruno Randolf
2010-05-20 12:59   ` Nick Kossifidis
2010-05-19  1:31 ` [PATCH v2 12/20] ath5k: print error message if ANI levels are out of range Bruno Randolf
2010-05-19  1:31 ` [PATCH v2 13/20] cfg80211: Add nl80211 antenna configuration Bruno Randolf
2010-05-19 17:07   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-05-20  0:35     ` Bruno Randolf
2010-05-20  0:51       ` [ath5k-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-05-20  1:12         ` Bruno Randolf
2010-05-20  1:26           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-05-20  2:21             ` Bruno Randolf
2010-05-20  5:17               ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2010-05-20  5:36                 ` Bruno Randolf
2010-05-20  6:43                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-05-20 22:02                     ` David Quan
2010-05-20 22:05                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-05-20 22:14                       ` Sam Ng
2010-05-20 22:24                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-05-21  1:59                       ` Bruno Randolf
2010-05-21 17:11                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-05-21 19:10                           ` Felix Fietkau
2010-05-21 20:28                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-05-24  0:45                           ` Bruno Randolf
2010-05-24  9:15                             ` RHS Linux User
2010-06-04 19:30   ` John W. Linville
2010-06-04 21:21     ` [ath5k-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-04 21:53       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-07  3:45       ` Bruno Randolf
2010-05-19  1:31 ` [PATCH v2 14/20] mac80211: Add " Bruno Randolf
2010-05-19  1:31 ` [PATCH v2 15/20] ath5k: Add support for " Bruno Randolf
2010-05-19  1:32 ` [PATCH v2 16/20] ath5k: remove setting ANI and antenna thru debugfs files Bruno Randolf
2010-05-19  1:32 ` [PATCH v2 17/20] ath5k: fix NULL pointer in antenna configuration Bruno Randolf
2010-05-19  1:32 ` [PATCH v2 18/20] ath5k: update AR5K_PHY_RESTART_DIV_GC values to match masks Bruno Randolf
2010-05-20 12:54   ` Nick Kossifidis
2010-05-19  1:32 ` [PATCH v2 19/20] ath5k: new function for setting the antenna switch table Bruno Randolf
2010-05-19  1:32 ` [PATCH v2 20/20] ath5k: no need to save/restore the default antenna Bruno Randolf
2010-05-19  1:41 ` [PATCH v2 00/20] pending ath5k + antenna patches Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-05-19 12:59 ` John W. Linville

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