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From: LB F <goainwo@gmail.com>
To: Ping-Ke Shih <pkshih@realtek.com>
Cc: "linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [BUG] wifi: rtw88: Hard system freeze on RTL8821CE when power_save is enabled (LPS/ASPM conflict)
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2026 13:01:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALdGYqQb=Vt0jjqW7k8RGMV1gczL0cg-26cHgCm3MmzBjezGMQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1e96af437fa24674b353ddb530b2d8e7@realtek.com>

Hi Ping-Ke,

Thank you for the incredibly fast response and assistance!

> Can you dig kernel log (by netconsole or ramoops) if something useful?
> I'd like to know this is hardware level freeze or kernel can capture something wrong.

I managed to pull a call trace from a historic journald log just
before the system hung. The kernel gets trapped in an IRQ thread
inside `rtw_pci_interrupt_threadfn`, calling up into `mac80211`
`ieee80211_rx_list` before everything freezes. Here is the relevant
snippet:

```text
Call Trace:
<IRQ>
? __alloc_skb+0x23a/0x2a0
? __alloc_skb+0x10c/0x2a0
? __pfx_irq_thread_fn+0x10/0x10
[ ... truncated module list ... ]
Tainted: G W I 6.19.6-2-cachyos #1 PREEMPT(full)
Hardware name: HP HP Notebook/81F0, BIOS F.50 11/20/2020
RIP: 0010:ieee80211_rx_list+0x1012/0x1020 [mac80211]
CPU: 2 UID: 0 PID: 765 Comm: irq/56-rtw88_pc
rtw_pci_interrupt_threadfn+0x239/0x310 [rtw88_pci]
```

It behaves exactly like a PCIe bus deadlock or a hardware fault that
eventually brings down the CPU handling the IRQ.

> Are these totally needed to workaround the problem? Or disable_aspm is enough?
> I'd list them in order of power consumption impact:
> 1. disable_aspm=y
> 2. disable_lps_deep=y
> 3. disable WiFi power save

To verify which parameters are strictly necessary, I performed
isolated testing today. I ensured no other modprobe configs were
active, rebuilt the initramfs, and manually enforced that
`wifi.powersave` was active via `iw dev wlan0 set power_save on`
during all tests (as the OS power management profiles were defaulting
it to off, which initially masked the issue).

I tested each workaround individually across multiple sleep/wake
cycles and active usage:

**Test 1 (ASPM Disabled, LPS Deep Enabled):**
- Kernel parameters: `rtw88_pci disable_aspm=y` (and `rtw88_core
disable_lps_deep=n`)
- Result: Stable. No freezes were observed during usage or transitions
into/out of S3 sleep while power saving was enforced.

**Test 2 (ASPM Enabled, LPS Deep Disabled):**
- Kernel parameters: `rtw88_core disable_lps_deep=y` (and `rtw88_pci
disable_aspm=n`)
- Result: Stable. No freezes were observed under the same forced power
save conditions.

**Conclusion:** It appears we do not need both workarounds
simultaneously for this specific hardware. Using only `disable_aspm=y`
seems to be sufficient to prevent the system freeze. Given your note
about the power consumption impact ranking, this looks like the
optimal path forward.

> But what does 'deadlock' mean? As I know NAPI poll is scheduled by ISR,
> and going to receive packets. The rx_no_aspm workaround is to forcely turn
> off ASPM during this period.

By "deadlock" I meant a hardware-level bus lockup. It seems the
physical RTL8821CE chip itself crashes or hangs the system's PCIe bus
when trying to negotiate waking up from ASPM L1 while simultaneously
existing in `LPS_DEEP_MODE_LCLK`. The `rx_no_aspm` workaround in NAPI
helps during active Rx decoding, but the laptop often freezes while
completely idle, presumably when the AP sends a basic beacon, the chip
attempts to leave LPS Deep + L1, and the hardware simply gives up and
halts the system.

> We have not modified RTL8821CE for a long time, so I'd add workaround
> to specific platform as mentioned above.

Adding a DMI/platform quirk specifically for this laptop to disable
ASPM would be wonderful and deeply appreciated. I agree it is safer
than touching the global flags for hardware that is functioning
correctly out in the wild.

Here is the exact identifying information for my system:

System Vendor: HP
Product Name: HP Notebook
SKU Number: P3S95EA#ACB
Family: 103C_5335KV
PCI ID: 10ec:c821
Subsystem ID: 103c:831a

I am completely ready to test any patch or quirk you send my way.
Thank you so much for your time and helping track this down!

Best regards,
Oleksandr

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-10 11:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-09 21:48 [BUG] wifi: rtw88: Hard system freeze on RTL8821CE when power_save is enabled (LPS/ASPM conflict) LB F
2026-03-10  2:02 ` Ping-Ke Shih
2026-03-10 11:01   ` LB F [this message]
2026-03-10 15:12     ` LB F
2026-03-11  2:20       ` Ping-Ke Shih
2026-03-11  2:15     ` Ping-Ke Shih
2026-03-11  2:22       ` Ping-Ke Shih
2026-03-11 11:00         ` LB F
2026-03-11 15:22           ` LB F
2026-03-12  1:56             ` Ping-Ke Shih
2026-03-12 21:42               ` LB F
2026-03-13  0:03                 ` LB F
2026-03-13  0:29                   ` LB F
2026-03-14 10:52                     ` LB F
2026-03-14 12:39                       ` LB F
2026-03-15  0:24                         ` LB F
2026-03-16  2:55                           ` Ping-Ke Shih
2026-03-16 20:27                             ` LB F
2026-03-17  1:28                               ` Ping-Ke Shih
2026-03-18  0:00                                 ` LB F
2026-03-18  0:58                                   ` Ping-Ke Shih
2026-03-18 23:55                                     ` LB F
2026-03-19  0:22                                       ` LB F
2026-03-19  0:49                                         ` Ping-Ke Shih
2026-03-19  1:24                                       ` Ping-Ke Shih
2026-03-19 23:58                                         ` LB F
2026-03-20  0:41                                           ` LB F
2026-03-20  1:00                                             ` Ping-Ke Shih
2026-03-20  1:19                                               ` LB F
2026-03-20  2:02                                                 ` Ping-Ke Shih
2026-03-21 12:07                                                   ` LB F
2026-03-23  2:01                                                     ` Ping-Ke Shih
2026-03-25 20:38                                                       ` LB F
2026-03-16  2:50                         ` Ping-Ke Shih

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