Re: Potential Broadcast Issues After GTK Key Exchange on ath11k with IPQ8072A (QCN5024/QCN5054)

[Remi Pommarel <repk@triplefau.lt>]

Hi Steffen.

On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 04:02:30PM +0100, Steffen Moser wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I've encountered a possible issue in a DD-WRT [1] setup where broadcast
> packets stop being delivered after a GTK (Group Temporal Key) exchange. This
> issue occurs on a system with the following hardware:
> 
>     Access Point Hardware: DynaLink DL-WRX36
>     Router Software: DD-WRT v3.0-r58819 std (12/13/24)
>     CPU: Qualcomm IPQ8072A
>     WiFi Chips: Qualcomm QCN5024 and Qualcomm QCN5054
>     WiFi Driver: ath11k
>     Firmware: WLAN.HK.2.12-01460-QCAHKSWPL_SILICONZ-1
>     NSS FW version: NSS.FW.12.5-210-HK.R
>     Kernel: Linux WL-AP-EG 6.6.64-rt29 #1791 SMP Thu Dec 12 16:41:51 +07
> 2024 aarch64 DD-WRT
> 
> The behavior is such that after a GTK exchange, the AP can get into a "weird
> state". When being there, broadcast frames like ARP or mDNS are no longer
> reliably delivered to connected clients while unicasts come still through.
> In this "weird state", the channel quality (active time vs. busy time) goes
> down and latencies to the still reachable WIFI clients rise.

This looks a lot like an issue we hit a while back. There is this patch
[0] from Qualcomm's wlan-open repository. It is a revert of [1]. Using
that the issue was never reproduced. Maybe this can help.

Also adding ath11k list.

Regards.

-- 
Remi

[0]: https://git.codelinaro.org/clo/qsdk/oss/system/feeds/wlan-open/-/blob/win.wlan_host_opensource.3.0.r24/patches/ath11k/350-ath11k-Revert-clear-the-keys-properly-when-DISABLE_K.patch
[1]: commit 436a4e886598 ("ath11k: clear the keys properly via DISABLE_KEY")

> 
> I've come across a related bug report on GitHub that describes a similar
> issue:
> https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/issues/9555#issuecomment-2433857175
> 
> Unfortunately, the GitHub discussion drifted towards various other possible
> bugs.
> 
> In the meantime, I have a done a lot of additional debugging, but I am
> coming to a dead end due to limited knowledge of the ath11k driver and
> firmware internals. Interestingly, the AP can get back from "weird state" to
> "normal state" after another GTK rekey event. I've seen this behavior only
> in the 5 GHz band, yet (using non-DFS-channels).
> 
> My questions to the Linux wireless experts and developers in this community:
> 
>  · Is such a behavior known with ath11k on IPQ8072A or on the mentioned WiFi
> chips (QCN5024/QCN5054)?
> 
>  · Could this be a driver or firmware issue that specifically arises after a
> GTK or even GMK exchange?
> 
>  · What can I do to debug it further? I've switched on debugging in
> "hostapd" in order to see the keying events. Are there more lower-level logs
> I can get from the WiFi chip and match to the latency and key exchange
> observations?
> 
>  · Are there any additional information I can/should deliver to give the
> devs more insight about this issue?
> 
> When exchanging the DynaLink DL-WRX36 AP by a Netgear R7800 AP (CPU: QCA
> IPQ8065), its predecessor, the problem is gone without touching any of the
> clients.
> 
> Thank you in advance for any insights or experiences regarding this issue.
> 
> Best regards,
> Steffen
> 
> [1] https://dd-wrt.com/
> 
> 
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