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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
Cc: Jake Edge <jake@lwn.net>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <lrodriguez@atheros.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	"corbet@lwn.net" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"tshibata@ab.jp.nec.com" <tshibata@ab.jp.nec.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3.1415] Documentation: add documentation summary for rc-series and merge window
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:49:24 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0906231246430.3240@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3y6rilorn.fsf@intrepid.localdomain>



On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Krzysztof Halasa wrote:

> Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:
> 
> > In fact, this whole discussion has shown one thing: people still think 
> > that "bug fix" somehow automatically means that it's appropriate after the 
> > merge window. That's simply not so. 
> 
> That's why i wrote: gain vs risk.

People really don't seem to be very good at the risk management part. They 
see the gain, they don't think about the risk.

Note: not all maintainers are bad about this. But it tends to be my 
biggest gripe after around -rc3 or so - people send stuff that is good, 
but that really has no real reason not to be delayed.

And as long as people talk about this in terms of "bugs", it's a problem.

It would be much better to talk about it in terms of "Does this _really_ 
have to hit the next release? Honestly? Even though we're supposed to be 
in the calming-down period?"

			Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-23 19:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-22 22:22 [PATCH v3.1415] Documentation: add documentation summary for rc-series and merge window Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-23  0:58 ` Li Zefan
2009-06-23 17:18 ` Jake Edge
2009-06-23 17:55   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-23 18:37     ` Greg KH
2009-06-23 19:02     ` Jake Edge
2009-06-23 18:52   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-06-23 19:04     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-23 19:06     ` Jake Edge
2009-06-23 19:11       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-23 19:23         ` Jake Edge
2009-06-23 19:43         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-06-23 19:49           ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2009-06-23 20:45         ` Luis R. Rodriguez

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