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From: Martin Schleier <drahemmaps@gmx.net>
To: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: loading firmware while usermodehelper disabled.
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 14:20:26 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <loom.20111231T150655-670@post.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CA+55aFyqm4FbW=--7U4ULk1EBb6RLP0sRgtokODBYnZNiJXWew@mail.gmail.com

Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...> writes:
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Dave Jones <davej@...> wrote:
> > We're getting a bunch of reports against Fedora 16
> > (still using 3.1) which look like some drivers are trying to
> > load firmware on resume from suspend, while usermodehelper
> > is disabled.
> 
> Ok, buggy drivers. You *must*not* load firmware in your resume path,
> since there is no actual guarantee that any particular device will be
> resumed after the disk that contains the firmware images.
> 
> So it's very simple: drivers that load firmware at resume time are
> buggy. No ifs, buts, or maybes about it.
Or are they?

You see, PCMCIA cards [don't know about the pccard express stuff]
have to deal with a notable exception from this rule since:

pcmcia: improve check for same card in slot after resume
"88b060d6c03fcb9e4d2018b4349954c4242a5c7f"

This patch changed the way how suspend/resume is handled.
On resume, the pcmcia subsystem obviously does not know
if the card has been removed and reinserted, therefore
it does not call the resume method of the driver but
instead goes for "probe" and things go south from there.

[And now for the $64 question, what happens to USB drivers
that are managing devices which are connected to pcmcia
usb host cards?]


  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-12-31 14:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2011-12-31  0:22 ` loading firmware while usermodehelper disabled Linus Torvalds
2011-12-31  0:40   ` Matthew Garrett
2011-12-31 15:33     ` Alan Stern
2011-12-31 15:59       ` Oliver Neukum
2012-01-01  2:21         ` Alan Stern
2012-01-01 12:22           ` Oliver Neukum
2012-01-01 16:17             ` Alan Stern
2012-01-01 16:25               ` Michael Büsch
2012-01-01 20:30               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-01 21:27                 ` Oliver Neukum
2012-01-01 21:39                   ` Michael Büsch
2012-01-02  3:33                     ` Matthew Garrett
2012-01-02  7:56                     ` Oliver Neukum
2012-01-02  4:17                 ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-02  5:35                   ` Gábor Stefanik
2012-01-02  8:38                     ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-02 16:54                 ` Alan Stern
2012-01-02 20:41                   ` Jack Stone
2012-01-02 20:48                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-02 20:55                       ` Jack Stone
2012-01-02 21:00                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-02 21:09                           ` Jack Stone
2012-01-02 21:23                             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-02 21:31                               ` Jack Stone
2012-01-02 21:52                                 ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-02 21:57                                   ` Jack Stone
2012-01-02 22:31                                     ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-02 23:25                                       ` Jack Stone
2012-01-03  0:31                                         ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-03  0:44                                           ` Jack Stone
2012-01-03  0:58                                             ` Alan Cox
2012-01-03  7:17                                               ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-03  7:41                                             ` Oliver Neukum
2012-01-03  0:35                                 ` Alan Cox
2012-01-03  0:50                           ` Alan Cox
2012-01-02 21:19                       ` Matthew Garrett
2012-01-02 21:26                         ` Jack Stone
2012-01-03  0:42                           ` Alan Cox
2012-01-03 11:57                             ` Oliver Neukum
2012-01-03 12:19                               ` Jack Stone
2012-01-03 13:20                                 ` Alan Cox
2012-01-03 13:30                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2012-01-03 13:36                                     ` Alan Cox
2012-01-02 21:27                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-02 21:50                           ` Matthew Garrett
2012-01-02 22:03                             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-02 22:12                               ` Matthew Garrett
2012-01-02 22:19                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-02 22:29                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2012-01-02 22:46                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-02 23:00                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2012-01-02 23:31                                         ` Jack Stone
2012-01-03  0:13                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2012-01-03  0:20                                             ` Alan Cox
2012-01-03  0:37                                               ` Matthew Garrett
2012-01-03  0:22                                             ` Jack Stone
2012-01-03  0:31                                               ` Alan Cox
2012-01-03  0:41                                                 ` Jack Stone
2012-01-03  0:38                                               ` Matthew Garrett
2012-01-03  0:47                                                 ` Alan Cox
2012-01-03  0:18                                           ` Alan Cox
2012-01-03  8:26                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-03  2:45                             ` Alan Stern
2012-01-03  3:25                               ` Matthew Garrett
2012-01-03  5:53                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-03 11:50                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2012-01-03 15:16                                     ` Alan Stern
2012-01-03 12:24                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2012-01-03 16:29                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-03 15:09                                 ` Alan Stern
2012-01-03  9:16                             ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2012-01-03  9:24                               ` david
2012-01-03 13:43                               ` Alan Cox
2012-01-03 14:12                               ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2012-01-03  0:00                           ` Alan Cox
2012-01-02 23:50                       ` Alan Cox
2012-01-02 23:53                     ` Alan Cox
2011-12-31 16:27       ` Matthew Garrett
2011-12-31 14:20   ` Martin Schleier [this message]
2011-12-31 18:39   ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-01  9:48     ` Oliver Neukum
2012-01-01  9:54       ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-01 12:28         ` Oliver Neukum
2012-01-01 16:32           ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-01 17:06             ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-01 20:39             ` Alan Cox
2012-01-01 20:50               ` Michael Büsch
2012-01-02  3:24                 ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-02  3:29               ` Marek Vasut
2012-01-01  3:49   ` Larry Finger
2012-01-01 22:45   ` Jack Stone

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