From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list xfs); Wed, 19 Jul 2006 06:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orca.ele.uri.edu (orca.ele.uri.edu [131.128.51.63]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id k6JDBcDW001709 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 06:11:38 -0700 Subject: Re: stable xfs From: Ming Zhang Reply-To: mingz@ele.uri.edu In-Reply-To: <17598.2129.999932.67127@base.ty.sabi.co.UK> References: <1153150223.4532.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <17595.47312.720883.451573@base.ty.sabi.co.UK> <1153262166.2669.267.camel@localhost.localdomain> <17597.27469.834961.186850@base.ty.sabi.co.UK> <1153272044.2669.282.camel@localhost.localdomain> <17598.2129.999932.67127@base.ty.sabi.co.UK> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:11:10 -0400 Message-Id: <1153314670.2691.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xfs-bounce@oss.sgi.com Errors-To: xfs-bounce@oss.sgi.com List-Id: xfs To: Peter Grandi Cc: Linux XFS On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 11:24 +0100, Peter Grandi wrote: > >>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 21:20:44 -0400, Ming Zhang said: > > [ ... ] > > mingz> when u say large parallel storage system, you mean > mingz> independent spindles right? but most people will have all > mingz> disks configured in one RAID5/6 and thus it is not > mingz> parallel any more. > > As I was saying... > > pg> Most of the reports about ''corruption'' are consequences > pg> of not being aware of what it was designed for, how it > pg> works and how it should be used... > > mingz> [ .. ] example on what is an improper use? > pg> Well, this mailing list is full of them :-). > > pg> But then I have seen people building RAIDs stuffing in a > pg> couple dozen drives from the same shipping box, [ ... ] > > :-) > > BTW as to these: > > * A 64 bit system. > * With a large, parallel storage system. > * The block IO system handles all storage errors. > * With backups of the contents of the storage system. > > I forgot a very essential one: > > * With lots of RAM, size proportional to that of the largest filesystem. > > [ ... ] > what kind of "ram vs fs" size ratio here will be a safe/good/proper one? any rule of thumb? thanks! hope not 1:1. :) Ming