From: Ming Zhang <mingz@ele.uri.edu>
To: Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>
Cc: Peter Grandi <pg_xfs@xfs.for.sabi.co.UK>,
Linux XFS <linux-xfs@oss.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: stable xfs
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 13:00:44 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1153501244.2841.50.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060721160709.GB12347@tuatara.stupidest.org>
On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 09:07 -0700, Chris Wedgwood wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 09:10:31AM -0400, Ming Zhang wrote:
>
> > then what is the benefit? because files under same dir can be accessed
> > with locality so put close will reduce disk head seek?
>
> yes
>
> > other than this, what else benefit?
>
> that alone has a measurable benefit to me (i have an overlay
> filesystem over many smaller 400 to 500GB filesystems so i don't get
> the benefit of many spindles to reduce average seek times)
what u mean overlay fs over small fs? like a unionfs?
>
> > so if i have 500GB file, will it be copied to another 500GB temp
> > file?
>
but other than fsr. there is no better way for this right?
of course, preallocate is always good. but i do not have control over
applications.
> yes, which in many cases isn't always derisable because:
>
> * if the file had a small number of extents in the first place,
> reducing them slightly more isn't much of a gain (ie. going from
> say 11 to 10 is argubly pointless) (i have a patch to specifiy
> the miniumum gains before doing the copy somewhere)
>
> * if the file changes during the copy, then it will be skipped until
> next time, for larger files this is problematic, you could
> argue attemtping to fsr a file that is less than <n> seconds old
> is pointless as it has a high chance of being active (i have a
> patch for that too))
sounds like a useful patch. :P will it be merged into fsr code?
>
> * fsr has no global overview of what it's doing, so it never does
> things like 'move this file out of the way to make room for this
> one' (it can't do this w/o assistance right now), and of course it
> can't move inodes w/o changing them so there are limits to what
> can be done anyhow
what kind of assistance you mean?
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-21 17:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-17 15:30 stable xfs Ming Zhang
2006-07-17 16:20 ` Peter Grandi
2006-07-18 22:36 ` Ming Zhang
2006-07-18 23:14 ` Peter Grandi
2006-07-19 1:20 ` Ming Zhang
2006-07-19 5:56 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-07-19 10:53 ` Peter Grandi
2006-07-19 14:45 ` Ming Zhang
2006-07-22 17:13 ` Peter Grandi
2006-07-20 6:12 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-07-22 17:31 ` Peter Grandi
2006-07-19 14:10 ` Ming Zhang
2006-07-19 10:24 ` Peter Grandi
2006-07-19 13:11 ` Ming Zhang
2006-07-20 6:15 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-07-20 14:08 ` Ming Zhang
2006-07-20 16:17 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-07-20 16:38 ` Ming Zhang
2006-07-20 19:04 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-07-21 0:19 ` Ming Zhang
2006-07-21 3:26 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-07-21 13:10 ` Ming Zhang
2006-07-21 16:07 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-07-21 17:00 ` Ming Zhang [this message]
2006-07-21 18:07 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-07-24 1:14 ` Ming Zhang
2006-07-22 18:09 ` Peter Grandi
2006-07-22 17:47 ` Peter Grandi
2006-07-22 15:37 ` Peter Grandi
2006-07-18 23:54 ` Nathan Scott
2006-07-19 1:15 ` Ming Zhang
2006-07-19 7:40 ` Martin Steigerwald
2006-07-19 14:11 ` Ming Zhang
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