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From: Ming Zhang <mingz@ele.uri.edu>
To: Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>
Cc: Peter Grandi <pg_xfs@xfs.for.sabi.co.UK>,
	Linux XFS <linux-xfs@oss.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: stable xfs
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 13:00:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1153501244.2841.50.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060721160709.GB12347@tuatara.stupidest.org>

On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 09:07 -0700, Chris Wedgwood wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 09:10:31AM -0400, Ming Zhang wrote:
> 
> > then what is the benefit? because files under same dir can be accessed
> > with locality so put close will reduce disk head seek?
> 
> yes
> 
> > other than this, what else benefit?
> 
> that alone has a measurable benefit to me (i have an overlay
> filesystem over many smaller 400 to 500GB filesystems so i don't get
> the benefit of many spindles to reduce average seek times)

what u mean overlay fs over small fs? like a unionfs?

> 
> > so if i have 500GB file, will it be copied to another 500GB temp
> > file?
> 

but other than fsr. there is no better way for this right?

of course, preallocate is always good. but i do not have control over
applications.


> yes, which in many cases isn't always derisable because:
> 
>   * if the file had a small number of extents in the first place,
>     reducing them slightly more isn't much of a gain (ie. going from
>     say 11 to 10 is argubly pointless) (i have a patch to specifiy
>     the miniumum gains before doing the copy somewhere)
> 
>   * if the file changes during the copy, then it will be skipped until
>     next time, for larger files this is problematic,  you could
>     argue attemtping to fsr a file that is less than <n> seconds old
>     is pointless as it has a high chance of being active (i have a
>     patch for that too))

sounds like a useful patch. :P will it be merged into fsr code?

> 
>   * fsr has no global overview of what it's doing, so it never does
>     things like 'move this file out of the way to make room for this
>     one' (it can't do this w/o assistance right now), and of course it
>     can't move inodes w/o changing them so there are limits to what
>     can be done anyhow

what kind of assistance you mean?

> 

  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-21 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-17 15:30 stable xfs Ming Zhang
2006-07-17 16:20 ` Peter Grandi
2006-07-18 22:36   ` Ming Zhang
2006-07-18 23:14     ` Peter Grandi
2006-07-19  1:20       ` Ming Zhang
2006-07-19  5:56         ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-07-19 10:53           ` Peter Grandi
2006-07-19 14:45             ` Ming Zhang
2006-07-22 17:13               ` Peter Grandi
2006-07-20  6:12             ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-07-22 17:31               ` Peter Grandi
2006-07-19 14:10           ` Ming Zhang
2006-07-19 10:24         ` Peter Grandi
2006-07-19 13:11           ` Ming Zhang
2006-07-20  6:15             ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-07-20 14:08               ` Ming Zhang
2006-07-20 16:17                 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-07-20 16:38                   ` Ming Zhang
2006-07-20 19:04                     ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-07-21  0:19                       ` Ming Zhang
2006-07-21  3:26                         ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-07-21 13:10                           ` Ming Zhang
2006-07-21 16:07                             ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-07-21 17:00                               ` Ming Zhang [this message]
2006-07-21 18:07                                 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-07-24  1:14                                   ` Ming Zhang
2006-07-22 18:09                     ` Peter Grandi
2006-07-22 17:47                 ` Peter Grandi
2006-07-22 15:37             ` Peter Grandi
2006-07-18 23:54 ` Nathan Scott
2006-07-19  1:15   ` Ming Zhang
2006-07-19  7:40   ` Martin Steigerwald
2006-07-19 14:11     ` Ming Zhang

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