From: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@linuxmail.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Freeze bdevs when freezing processes.
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:23:40 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1161782620.3638.0.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200610251432.41958.rjw@sisk.pl>
Hi.
On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 14:32 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:47, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > On Wed 2006-10-25 18:38:30, David Chinner wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 10:10:01AM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > > Hence the only way to correctly rebuild the XFS state on resume is
> > > > > to quiesce the filesystem on suspend and thaw it on resume so as to
> > > > > trigger log recovery.
> > > >
> > > > No, during suspend/resume, memory image is saved, and no state is
> > > > lost. We would not even have to do sys_sync(), and suspend/resume
> > > > would still work properly.
> > >
> > > It seems to me that you ensure the filesystem is synced to disk and
> > > then at some point later you record the memory state of the
> > > filesystem, but these happen at different times. That leaves a
> > > window for things to get out of sync again, right?
> >
> > I DO NOT HAVE TO ENSURE FILESYSTEM IS SYNCED. That sys_sync() is
> > optional.
> >
> > Recording of memory state is atomic, and as long as noone writes to
> > the disk after atomic snapshot, memory image matches what is on disk.
>
> Well, my impression is that this is exactly what happens here: Something
> in the XFS code causes metadata to be written to disk _after_ the atomic
> snapshot.
>
> That's why I asked if the dirty XFS metadata were flushed by a kernel thread.
When I first added bdev freezing it was because there was an XFS timer
doing writes.
Regards,
Nigel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-10-25 13:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <1161576735.3466.7.camel@nigel.suspend2.net>
[not found] ` <200610231236.54317.rjw@sisk.pl>
2006-10-24 14:44 ` [PATCH] Freeze bdevs when freezing processes David Chinner
2006-10-24 15:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 16:27 ` Oleg Verych
2006-10-25 8:05 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-24 16:33 ` David Chinner
2006-10-24 21:37 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-25 0:13 ` David Chinner
2006-10-25 8:10 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-25 8:38 ` David Chinner
2006-10-25 8:47 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-25 12:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-25 13:23 ` Nigel Cunningham [this message]
[not found] ` <200610252105.56862.rjw@sisk.pl>
2006-10-26 7:30 ` David Chinner
2006-10-26 8:18 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-26 8:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-26 8:57 ` David Chinner
2006-10-26 9:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-27 1:38 ` David Chinner
2006-10-27 14:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-29 17:35 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <200610300029.25555.rjw@sisk.pl>
2006-10-29 23:46 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-26 9:18 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-26 9:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 17:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-24 21:26 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-24 21:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-24 21:43 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-24 22:19 ` Nigel Cunningham
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