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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] fs: add inode helpers for fsuid and fsgid
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 07:43:06 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1487259786.2944.10.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y3x8dw5q.fsf@xmission.com>

On Wed, 2017-02-15 at 15:29 +1300, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com> writes:
> 
> > On Tue, 2017-02-14 at 20:46 +1300, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > > James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com> writes:
> > > 
> > > > Now that we have two different views of filesystem ids (the 
> > > > filesystem view and the kernel view), we have a problem in that
> > > > current_fsuid/fsgid() return the kernel view but are sometimes
> > > > used 
> > > > in filesystem code where the filesystem view shoud be used. 
> > > >  This
> > > > patch introduces helpers to produce the filesystem view of
> > > > current 
> > > > fsuid and fsgid.
> > > 
> > > If I am reading this right what we are seeing is that xfs
> > > explicitly
> > > opted out of type safety with predictable results.   Accidentally
> > > confusing kuids and uids, which is potentially security issue.
> > > 
> > > All of that said where are you getting sb->s_user_ns !=
> > > &init_user_ns
> > > for an xfs filesystem?
> 
> James please answer this question:
> 
>  Where are you getting sb->s_user_ns != &init_user_ns for an xfs
> filesystem?

I'm playing with a patch that allows host admin to set up an
unprivileged container for a guest to use.  One of the extensions is to
allow anything possessing capability(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) to make s_user_ns
follow mnt_ns->user_ns for new mounts (as an option).  The idea was to
see if root could set up an id shifted container with just the current
s_user_ns infrastructure.

> None of this matters if sb->s_user_ns == &init_user_ns.
> 
> This is signification because only xfs keeps any in-core data 
> structure in it's on-disk encoding.  So this problem is xfs specific.
>    So understanding how you are getting xfs to have sb->s_user_ns !=
> &init_user_ns is important for discussing which direction we go with
> helper functions here.
> 
> xfs with sb->s_user_ns == &init_user_ns is perfectly fine and as such 
> no fixes are needed.

So what you're saying is that unless the unprivileged container could
mount the filesystem itself (i.e. only those possessing the
FS_USERNS_MOUNT flag) the filesystems are going to be full of problems
like this.  I suppose whether it's worthwhile trying to fix them all
depends on whether the ability of the administrator to set up an id
shifted container is useful or not.

James


  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-16 15:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-13 17:46 xfs: fix inode uid/gid initialization James Bottomley
2017-02-13 19:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-02-13 20:33   ` James Bottomley
2017-02-13 21:34   ` Dave Chinner
2017-02-14  6:08     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-02-14  6:27       ` James Bottomley
2017-02-14  6:28         ` [PATCH 1/2] fs: add inode helpers for fsuid and fsgid James Bottomley
2017-02-14  7:46           ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-02-14  8:00             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-02-14 16:09             ` James Bottomley
2017-02-15  2:29               ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-02-16 15:43                 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2017-02-17  1:15                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-02-17 17:12                     ` James Bottomley
2017-02-20  4:56                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-02-14  6:29         ` [PATCH 2/2] xfs: fix inode uid/gid initialization James Bottomley
2017-02-14  7:58         ` Christoph Hellwig

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