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From: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
To: xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: XFS and write barriers.
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:26:31 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17923.11463.459927.628762@notabene.brown> (raw)


Hi,
 I have two concerns related to XFS and write barrier support that I'm
 hoping can be resolved.

Firstly in xfs_mountfs_check_barriers in fs/xfs/linux-2.6/xfs_super.c,
it tests ....->queue->ordered to see if that is QUEUE_ORDERED_NONE.
If it is, then barriers are disabled.

I think this is a layering violation - xfs really has no business
looking that deeply into the device.
For dm and md devices, ->ordered is never used and so never set, so
xfs will never use barriers on those devices (as the default value is
0 or NONE).  It is true that md and dm could set ->ordered to some
non-zero value just to please XFS, but that would be telling a lie and
there is no possible value that is relevant to a layered devices.

I think this test should just be removed and the xfs_barrier_test
should be the main mechanism for seeing if barriers work.

Secondly, if a barrier write fails due to EOPNOTSUPP, it should be
retried without the barrier (after possibly waiting for dependant
requests to complete).  This is what other filesystems do, but I
cannot find the code in xfs which does this.
The approach taken by xfs_barrier_test seems to suggest that xfs does
do this... could someone please point me to the code ?

This is particularly important for md/raid1 as it is quite possible
that barriers will be supported at first, but after a failure and
different device on a different controller could be swapped in that
does not support barriers.

Thanks for your time,
NeilBrown

             reply	other threads:[~2007-03-23  1:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-23  1:26 Neil Brown [this message]
2007-03-23  5:30 ` XFS and write barriers David Chinner
2007-03-23  7:49   ` Neil Brown
2007-03-25  4:17     ` David Chinner
2007-03-25 23:21       ` Neil Brown
2007-03-26  3:14         ` David Chinner
2007-03-26  4:27           ` Neil Brown
2007-03-26  9:04             ` David Chinner
2007-03-29 14:56               ` Martin Steigerwald
2007-03-29 15:18                 ` David Chinner
2007-03-29 16:49                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2007-03-23  9:50   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-25  3:51     ` David Chinner
2007-03-25 23:58       ` Neil Brown
2007-03-26  1:11     ` Neil Brown
2007-03-23  6:20 ` Timothy Shimmin
2007-03-23  8:00   ` Neil Brown
2007-03-25  3:19     ` David Chinner
2007-03-26  0:01       ` Neil Brown
2007-03-26  3:58         ` David Chinner
2007-03-27  3:58       ` Timothy Shimmin

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