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From: Martin Steigerwald <Martin@lichtvoll.de>
To: linux-xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: XFS and write barrier
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 11:31:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200607221131.16238.Martin@lichtvoll.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060718192135.GV15160733@melbourne.sgi.com>

Am Dienstag 18 Juli 2006 21:21 schrieb David Chinner:

> > > blkdev_issue_flush() causes a write cache flush - just like a
> > > barrier typically causes a write cache flush up to the I/O with the
> > > barrier in it.  Both of these mechanisms provide the same thing -
> > > an I/O barrier that enforces ordering of I/Os to disk.
> >
> > Hello David,
> >
> > well now it gets interesting. If both provide the same thing, whats
> > the difference?
>
> A WRITE_BARRIER I/O can be optimised by smart drivers, protocols and
> hardware to minimise the adverse effects of the barrier, whereas a
> cache flush is a brute force cache cleaning mechanism that cannot be
> optimised....

Hello David,

I like to understand this difference a bit better.

As far as I understand there are three important differences between 
blkdev_issue_flush() and using the new barrier functionality:

1) blkdev_issue_flush() issues a cache flush synchronously and the 
filesystem has to wait for it to return. OTOH a write barrier is like a 
asynchron cache flush: The filesystem sends a barrier request to the 
block layer and forgets about it then. It can handle other stuff in the 
meanwhile while block layer will take care of the correct order of the 
write requests.

2) Since the filesystem offloads the ordering of the requests to the block 
layer, block layer can support smart drivers, protocols and hardware to 
optimize request ordering (say TCQ devices for example).

3) A direct cache flush means that the cache flush has to happen 
immediately while with a barrier it can happen some time in the future 
given that it happens before the barrier request is issued.  

So the advantages of the barrier functionality that is that it provides 
request ordering at a lower cost for the filesystem.

Anything to add or correct?

Regards,
-- 
Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-07-22  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-15 10:48 XFS and write barrier Martin Steigerwald
2006-07-15 19:28 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-07-16  9:53   ` Martin Steigerwald
2006-07-17  0:43     ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-07-17  1:24       ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-07-16 17:32 ` Federico Sevilla III
2006-07-18  7:31   ` Nathan Scott
2006-07-18  8:58     ` Neil Brown
2006-07-18 17:04       ` David Chinner
2006-07-18 18:27         ` Martin Steigerwald
2006-07-18 19:21           ` David Chinner
2006-07-20 10:34             ` Martin Steigerwald
2006-07-22  9:31             ` Martin Steigerwald [this message]
2006-07-22 10:36               ` Stefan Smietanowski
2006-07-18 23:41         ` Neil Brown

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