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From: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com, akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2]: Fix BUG in cancel_dirty_pages on XFS
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 09:46:54 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070124224654.GN33919298@melbourne.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45B7627B.8050202@yahoo.com.au>

On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 12:43:23AM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 09:37 +1100, David Chinner wrote:
> >
> >>With the recent changes to cancel_dirty_pages(), XFS will
> >>dump warnings in the syslog because it can truncate_inode_pages()
> >>on dirty mapped pages.
> >>
> >>I've determined that this is indeed correct behaviour for XFS
> >>as this can happen in the case of races on mmap()d files with
> >>direct I/O. In this case when we do a direct I/O read, we
> >>flush the dirty pages to disk, then truncate them out of the
> >>page cache. Unfortunately, between the flush and the truncate
> >>the mmap could dirty the page again. At this point we toss a
> >>dirty page that is mapped.
> >
> >
> >This sounds iffy, why not just leave the page in the pagecache if its
> >mapped anyway?
> 
> And why not just leave it in the pagecache and be done with it?

because what is in cache is then not coherent with what is on disk,
and a direct read is supposed to read the data that is present
in the file at the time it is issued. 

> All you need is to do a writeout before a direct IO read, which is
> what generic dio code does.

No, that's not good enough - after writeout but before the
direct I/O read is issued a process can fault the page and dirty
it. If you do a direct read, followed by a buffered read you should
get the same data. The only way to guarantee this is to chuck out
any cached pages across the range of the direct I/O so they are
fetched again from disk on the next buffered I/O. i.e. coherent
at the time the direct I/O is issued.

> I guess you'll say that direct writes still need to remove pages,

Yup.

> but in that case you'll either have to live with some racyness
> (which is what the generic code does), or have a higher level
> synchronisation to prevent buffered + direct IO writes I suppose?

The XFS inode iolock - direct I/O writes take it shared, buffered
writes takes it exclusive - so you can't do both at once. Buffered
reads take is shared, which is another reason why we need to purge
the cache on direct I/O writes - they can operate concurrently
(and coherently) with buffered reads.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
Principal Engineer
SGI Australian Software Group

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-01-24 22:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-23 22:37 [PATCH 1/2]: Fix BUG in cancel_dirty_pages on XFS David Chinner
2007-01-24 12:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-24 13:43   ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-24 14:40     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-25  0:05       ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-24 22:46     ` David Chinner [this message]
2007-01-25  0:12       ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-25  0:35         ` David Chinner
2007-01-25  0:47           ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-25  1:52             ` David Chinner
2007-01-25  2:01               ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-25  3:42                 ` David Chinner
2007-01-25  4:25                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-25  7:40                     ` David Chinner
2007-01-25 10:26                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-24 22:24   ` David Chinner

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