From: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>
To: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>
Cc: Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com>,
Jon Collette <jon@etelos.com>,
Joshua Baker-LePain <jlb17@duke.edu>,
linux-ide-arrays@lists.math.uh.edu, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: 3ware 9650 tips
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:22:25 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070716122225.GB31489@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070716024115.GJ12413810@sgi.com>
On Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 12:41:15PM +1000, David Chinner wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 03:36:46PM -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote:
> > On Fri, 13 Jul 2007, Jon Collette wrote:
> >
> > >Wouldn't Raid 6 be slower than Raid 5 because of the extra fault tolerance?
> > > http://www.enterprisenetworksandservers.com/monthly/art.php?1754 - 20%
> > >drop according to this article
> > >
> > >His 500GB WD drives are 7200RPM compared to the Raptors 10K. So his
> > >numbers will be slower.
> > >Justin what file system do you have running on the Raptors? I think thats
> > >an interesting point made by Joshua.
> >
> > I use XFS:
>
> When it comes to bandwidth, there is good reason for that.
>
> > >>>Trying to stick with a supported config as much as possible, I need to
> > >>>run ext3. As per usual, though, initial ext3 numbers are less than
> > >>>impressive. Using bonnie++ to get a baseline, I get (after doing
> > >>>'blockdev --setra 65536' on the device):
> > >>>Write: 136MB/s
> > >>>Read: 384MB/s
> > >>>
> > >>>Proving it's not the hardware, with XFS the numbers look like:
> > >>>Write: 333MB/s
> > >>>Read: 465MB/s
> > >>>
>
> Those are pretty typical numbers. In my experience, ext3 is limited to about
> 250MB/s buffered write speed. It's not disk limited, it's design limited. e.g.
> on a disk subsystem where XFS was getting 4-5GB/s buffered write, ext3 was doing
> 250MB/s.
>
> http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/papers/ols2006/ols-2006-paper.pdf
>
> If you've got any sort of serious disk array, ext3 is not the filesystem
> to use....
To show what the difference is, I used blktrace and Chris Mason's
seekwatcher script on a simple, single threaded dd command on
a 12 disk dm RAID0 stripe:
# dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/scratch/fred bs=1024k count=10k; sync
http://oss.sgi.com/~dgc/writes/ext3_write.png
http://oss.sgi.com/~dgc/writes/xfs_write.png
You can see from the ext3 graph that it comes to a screeching halt
every 5s (probably when pdflush runs) and at all other times the
seek rate is >10,000 seeks/s. That's pretty bad for a brand new,
empty filesystem and the only way it is sustained is the fact that
the disks have their write caches turned on. ext4 will probably show
better results, but I haven't got any of the tools installed to be
able to test it....
The XFS pattern shows consistently an order of magnitude less seeks
and consistent throughput above 600MB/s. To put the number of seeks
in context, XFS is doing 512k I/Os at about 1200-1300 per second. The
number of seeks? A bit above 10^3 per second or roughly 1 seek per
I/O which is pretty much optimal.
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
Principal Engineer
SGI Australian Software Group
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-16 12:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <alpine.LRH.0.999.0707131356520.25773@chaos.egr.duke.edu>
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707131434470.31742@p34.internal.lan>
[not found] ` <4697CA4D.6020304@etelos.com>
2007-07-13 19:36 ` 3ware 9650 tips Justin Piszcz
2007-07-16 2:41 ` David Chinner
2007-07-16 12:22 ` David Chinner [this message]
2007-07-16 12:39 ` Bernd Schubert
2007-07-16 15:50 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-07-16 22:21 ` David Chinner
2007-07-16 15:43 ` Joshua Baker-LePain
2007-07-16 17:15 ` [Advocacy] " Bryan J. Smith
[not found] ` <200707162040.00062.a1426z@gawab.com>
2007-07-16 17:48 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-07-16 18:28 ` [RFC] VFS: data=ordered (was: [Advocacy] Re: 3ware 9650 tips) Al Boldi
2007-07-16 19:02 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-07-16 18:38 ` [Advocacy] Re: 3ware 9650 tips Bryan J. Smith
2007-07-16 17:34 ` Stuart Levy
2007-07-16 18:44 ` [Advocacy] " Bryan J. Smith
2007-07-17 17:30 ` Simon Matter
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