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From: "Josef 'Jeff' Sipek" <jeffpc@josefsipek.net>
To: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>
Cc: Mark Goodwin <markgw@sgi.com>, Timothy Shimmin <tes@sgi.com>,
	nscott@aconex.com, Russell Cattelan <cattelan@thebarn.com>,
	Barry Naujok <bnaujok@sgi.com>,
	"xfs@oss.sgi.com" <xfs@oss.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [REVIEW] Don't make lazy counters default for mkfs
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 23:14:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080303041409.GC13879@josefsipek.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47CB7702.5080905@sandeen.net>

On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 09:56:50PM -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> Josef 'Jeff' Sipek wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 11:30:14AM +1100, Mark Goodwin wrote:
> > ...
> >> Maybe I'm missing something, but if we export all the feature bits,
> >> both new and old, then (a) an old mkfs will continue to ignore them,
> >> and (b) future versions of mkfs will have all the information needed,
> >> but will need t be smart about how that information is used.
> > 
> > IMHO:
> > 
> > 1) mkfs should make a filesystem, the defaults should be conservative (say
> >    using features that have been around >1 year)
> 
> I suppose I have to agree, unfortunately that means most competetive
> benchmarks will be using sub-optimal mkfs's, but...
 
Benchmarks that use default mkfs options on xfs, but non-default on other
fs?

If you want, have a simple printf in mkfs that tells the user that he's not
using the latest and greatest features (e.g., lazy-count); that should be
enough to make it obvious that there're better options than the default.

> It's not like we're running mkfs.ext3 here... ;)  mkfs; mount will tell
> you quickly if there's a problem, won't it.  Adding complexity to mkfs
> might not make a lot of sense.

Exactly :)

Josef 'Jeff' Sipek.

-- 
I already backed up the [server] once, I can do it again.
		- a sysadmin threatening to do more frequent backups

  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-03  4:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-28  1:09 [REVIEW] Don't make lazy counters default for mkfs Barry Naujok
2008-02-28  2:35 ` Nathan Scott
2008-02-29 21:21   ` Russell Cattelan
2008-02-29 23:11     ` Eric Sandeen
2008-02-29 23:19       ` Russell Cattelan
2008-02-29 23:47         ` Mark Goodwin
2008-02-29 23:56           ` Eric Sandeen
2008-03-01  0:11             ` Eric Sandeen
2008-03-02 23:59               ` Barry Naujok
2008-03-01  0:02           ` Josef 'Jeff' Sipek
2008-03-02 23:34         ` Nathan Scott
2008-03-03  0:16           ` Timothy Shimmin
2008-03-03  0:30             ` Mark Goodwin
2008-03-03  1:15               ` Josef 'Jeff' Sipek
2008-03-03  3:56                 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-03-03  4:14                   ` Josef 'Jeff' Sipek [this message]
2008-03-03  4:19                     ` Eric Sandeen
2008-03-03  4:47               ` Niv Sardi
2008-03-03  0:18           ` Donald Douwsma
2008-03-03  0:24             ` Nathan Scott
2008-03-02 10:26 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-02 10:41   ` Josef 'Jeff' Sipek

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