From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>
Cc: Greg Banks <gnb@melbourne.sgi.com>, xfs-dev <xfs-dev@sgi.com>,
xfs-oss <xfs@oss.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Don't initialise new inode generation numbers to zero V2
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:57:50 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080425085750.GA6395@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080422050447.GV103491721@sgi.com>
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 03:04:48PM +1000, David Chinner wrote:
> > I'm confused, why would an NFS client be trying to guess the generation
> > number? AFAICS the important thing is to ensure that the (inode,gen)
> > tuple isn't reused for a long time to prevent accidental filehandle
> > identity issues on clients; whether the gen is predictable or not
> > doesn't matter at all.
>
> Yeah, that's exactly what I said to Christoph, but that's the issue he
> raised w.r.t a malicious client triggering inode/gen collisions
> intentionally. If that's not a problem, then I can just use random32()
> for the inode number. If it is a real problem, then it needs to be
> a cryptographically secure random number. Personally, I don't care
> either way - I just want to get the issue fixed.
>
> Christoph, care to explain how and why this is a problem to everyone?
XFS has some heuristics for inode placement and of course for removing
the inode cluster and re-allocting it. I have a gut feeling that there
is a small chance to trigger a re-use via nfs operations. Making the
initial generation number random means we remove one of the major
user-triggerable inputs from the equation.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-25 8:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-22 1:58 [PATCH] Don't initialise new inode generation numbers to zero V2 David Chinner
2008-04-22 4:05 ` Greg Banks
2008-04-22 5:04 ` David Chinner
2008-04-25 8:57 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2008-04-28 3:11 ` David Chinner
2008-04-28 5:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-28 6:20 ` David Chinner
2008-04-28 6:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-28 3:24 ` Greg Banks
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