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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	gus3 <musicman529@yahoo.com>,
	Szabolcs Szakacsits <szaka@ntfs-3g.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: XFS vs Elevators (was Re: [PATCH RFC] nilfs2: continuous snapshotting file system)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:01:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080825120146.GC20960@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080825015922.GP5706@disturbed>

Dave Chinner wrote:
> To keep on top of this, we keep adding new variations and types and
> expect the filesystems to make best use of them (without
> documentation) to optimise for certain situations. Example - the
> new(ish) BIO_META tag that only CFQ understands. I can change the
> way XFS issues bios to use this tag to make CFQ behave the same way
> it used to w.r.t. metadata I/O from XFS, but then the deadline and
> AS will probably regress because they don't understand that tag and
> still need the old optimisations that just got removed. Ditto for
> prioritised bio dispatch - CFQ supports it but none of the others
> do.


There's nothing wrong with adding BIO_META (for example) and other
hints in _principle_.  You should be able to ignore it with no adverse
effects.  If its not used by a filesystem (and there's nothing else
competing to use the same disk), I would hope to see the same
performance as other kernels which don't have it.

If the elevators are being changed in such a way that old filesystem
code which doesn't use new hint bits is running significantly slower,
surely that's blatant elevator regression, and that's where the bugs
should be reported and fixed?

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-25 12:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20080820004326.519405a2.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
     [not found] ` <200808201613.AA00212@capsicum.lab.ntt.co.jp>
     [not found]   ` <Pine.LNX.4.61.0808202352450.4532@dhcppc2>
     [not found]     ` <20080820143916.1a7eddab.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
     [not found]       ` <20080821021259.GA5706@disturbed>
     [not found]         ` <Pine.LNX.4.62.0808210535450.25448@tamago.serverit.net>
2008-08-21  5:15           ` XFS vs Elevators (was Re: [PATCH RFC] nilfs2: continuous snapshotting file system) Dave Chinner
2008-08-21  6:00             ` gus3
2008-08-21  6:14               ` Dave Chinner
     [not found]                 ` <200808211700.39584.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
2008-08-21  8:53                   ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21 14:52                     ` Chris Mason
     [not found]                     ` <200808211933.34565.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
2008-08-21 17:08                       ` Dave Chinner
     [not found]                         ` <200808221229.11069.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
2008-08-25  1:59                           ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-25 12:01                             ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2008-08-26  3:07                               ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-26  3:50                                 ` david
2008-08-27  1:20                                   ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-27 21:54                                     ` david
2008-08-28  1:08                                       ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21  6:04             ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21  8:07               ` Aaron Carroll
2008-08-21  8:25               ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21 11:02                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-08-21 15:00                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-08-21 17:10                 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-21 17:33                   ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-22  2:24                     ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-22  6:49                       ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-08-22 12:44                       ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-23 12:52                         ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-21 11:53               ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-08-21 15:56                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21 11:05 Martin Knoblauch
2008-08-21 15:59 ` Dave Chinner

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