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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Raz <raziebe@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-xfs@oss.sgi.com, Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>
Subject: Re: XFS over SSD
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:36:57 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081215053656.GE32301@disturbed> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5d96567b0812080711x34bb93d6vd8e4f88d9b190e9@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 05:11:58PM +0200, Raz wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net> wrote:
> > Raz wrote:
> >> I am thinking of using XFS over a SSD disk.
> >> 1. Can I separate xfs meta data ( not just the logging) from the SSD ?
> >> can I put the meta on a different disk ?
> >
> > Are you talking about just the log (see the mkfs man page for external
> > logs, as Justin suggested) or all metadata?  For the latter, using the
> > realtime subvolume does accomplish this (data on one volume, metadata on
> > the other) but that's not used very often.
> >
> > -Eric
> >
> I am referring to all the meta data. 128K of erase block for some block map
> update is a big penalty.

That's not an issue for smart SSDs like the intel one. They
internally use a log-based structure that means that small writes
don't end up requiring an entire erase block to be rewritten.  That
is, they have a low write amplification factor.

Such SSDs don't really care that much about the filesystem structure
and random write patterns. Older/cheaper SSDs have a much larger
write amplification factor and so are unsuited to traditional
filesystem structures.....

Google "SSD write amplification" for more information.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-12-15  5:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-08 12:42 XFS over SSD Raz
2008-12-08 13:31 ` Justin Piszcz
2008-12-08 14:46 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-12-08 15:11   ` Raz
2008-12-08 15:50     ` Eric Sandeen
2008-12-15  5:36     ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2008-12-09  7:53 ` Emmanuel Florac

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