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* retrocompatibility XFS 2.10.1 with 2.8.1 ?
@ 2009-01-05 19:04 Tritium Tritium
  2009-01-06  1:10 ` Dave Chinner
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Tritium Tritium @ 2009-01-05 19:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: xfs

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HI !

In first, I 'm a french user and sorry for my very bad english ...
For an Adsl Box, I want to partitionning and format my external hard disk drive under XFS .What a good idea , isn't it ? ;o)
I get my Mandriva One (I know it isn't a "professionnal" distribution but you know the French search the simple thing !) and use fdisk -l , gparted and mkfs.xfs /dev/xxx .
With this, the adsl box reboot ! And of course it doesn't recognize the partition.
I tried with a Debian Etch XFS ... and this is a SUCCESS !
When I compare XFS versions I find a 2.10.1 for Mandriva and 2.8.1 for Debian.

Why the same command under two differents versions produce two format incompatible ?
Why the XFS 2.10.1 version is not compatible with the 2.8.1 ?

It's a trap for newbie who get a old hardware under linux ...

Thanks for your patience .

Reguards

Vince.


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* Re: retrocompatibility XFS 2.10.1 with 2.8.1 ?
  2009-01-05 19:04 retrocompatibility XFS 2.10.1 with 2.8.1 ? Tritium Tritium
@ 2009-01-06  1:10 ` Dave Chinner
  2009-01-06  4:44   ` Eric Sandeen
  2009-01-06  8:03   ` Tritium Tritium
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Dave Chinner @ 2009-01-06  1:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tritium Tritium; +Cc: xfs

On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 07:04:30PM +0000, Tritium Tritium wrote:
> 
> HI !
> 
> In first, I 'm a french user and sorry for my very bad english ...
> For an Adsl Box, I want to partitionning and format my external hard disk drive under XFS .What a good idea , isn't it ? ;o)
> I get my Mandriva One (I know it isn't a "professionnal" distribution but you know the French search the simple thing !) and use fdisk -l , gparted and mkfs.xfs /dev/xxx .
> With this, the adsl box reboot ! And of course it doesn't recognize the partition.
> I tried with a Debian Etch XFS ... and this is a SUCCESS !
> When I compare XFS versions I find a 2.10.1 for Mandriva and 2.8.1 for Debian.

The defaults mkfs.xfs uses in 2.10.1 are different to 2.8.1. The
newer version enables features that are only availble in more recent
kernels (since about 2.6.19, IIRC), so it would seem that your ADSL
box has an old kernel on it that does not support the newer, faster,
shinier features XFS has....

The kernel version of your ADSL box, as well as the mkfs.xfs output
from both distro's would help confirm this.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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* Re: retrocompatibility XFS 2.10.1 with 2.8.1 ?
  2009-01-06  1:10 ` Dave Chinner
@ 2009-01-06  4:44   ` Eric Sandeen
  2009-01-06  8:06     ` Tritium Tritium
  2009-01-06  8:03   ` Tritium Tritium
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Eric Sandeen @ 2009-01-06  4:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Chinner; +Cc: Tritium Tritium, xfs@oss.sgi.com



On Jan 5, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 07:04:30PM +0000, Tritium Tritium wrote:
>>
>> HI !
>>
>> In first, I 'm a french user and sorry for my very bad english ...
>> For an Adsl Box, I want to partitionning and format my external  
>> hard disk drive under XFS .What a good idea , isn't it ? ;o)
>> I get my Mandriva One (I know it isn't a "professionnal"  
>> distribution but you know the French search the simple thing !) and  
>> use fdisk -l , gparted and mkfs.xfs /dev/xxx .
>> With this, the adsl box reboot ! And of course it doesn't recognize  
>> the partition.
>> I tried with a Debian Etch XFS ... and this is a SUCCESS !
>> When I compare XFS versions I find a 2.10.1 for Mandriva and 2.8.1  
>> for Debian.
>
> The defaults mkfs.xfs uses in 2.10.1 are different to 2.8.1. The
> newer version enables features that are only availble in more recent
> kernels (since about 2.6.19, IIRC), so it would seem that your ADSL
> box has an old kernel on it that does not support the newer, faster,
> shinier features XFS has....
>
> The kernel version of your ADSL box, as well as the mkfs.xfs output
> from both distro's would help confirm this.

dmesg output after the failed mount would hopefully also offer some  
clues..

For what it's worth, you can just turn off the newer features when you  
mkfs with the newer version, too.

-Eric

>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave.
> -- 
> Dave Chinner
> david@fromorbit.com
>
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* RE: retrocompatibility XFS 2.10.1 with 2.8.1 ?
  2009-01-06  1:10 ` Dave Chinner
  2009-01-06  4:44   ` Eric Sandeen
@ 2009-01-06  8:03   ` Tritium Tritium
  2009-01-06 15:00     ` Eric Sandeen
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Tritium Tritium @ 2009-01-06  8:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: david; +Cc: xfs

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Thanks for you response !

unfortunately , I don't know the kernel version of my Adsl Box .
I search in documentation and I don't find any item about a parameter which take a compatibility with old xfs support .

Thanks and I hope see you later !
Vince.

> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:10:14 +1100
> From: david@fromorbit.com
> To: tritium_helium@hotmail.com
> CC: xfs@oss.sgi.com
> Subject: Re: retrocompatibility XFS 2.10.1 with 2.8.1 ?
> 
> On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 07:04:30PM +0000, Tritium Tritium wrote:
> > 
> > HI !
> > 
> > In first, I 'm a french user and sorry for my very bad english ...
> > For an Adsl Box, I want to partitionning and format my external hard disk drive under XFS .What a good idea , isn't it ? ;o)
> > I get my Mandriva One (I know it isn't a "professionnal" distribution but you know the French search the simple thing !) and use fdisk -l , gparted and mkfs.xfs /dev/xxx .
> > With this, the adsl box reboot ! And of course it doesn't recognize the partition.
> > I tried with a Debian Etch XFS ... and this is a SUCCESS !
> > When I compare XFS versions I find a 2.10.1 for Mandriva and 2.8.1 for Debian.
> 
> The defaults mkfs.xfs uses in 2.10.1 are different to 2.8.1. The
> newer version enables features that are only availble in more recent
> kernels (since about 2.6.19, IIRC), so it would seem that your ADSL
> box has an old kernel on it that does not support the newer, faster,
> shinier features XFS has....
> 
> The kernel version of your ADSL box, as well as the mkfs.xfs output
> from both distro's would help confirm this.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave.
> -- 
> Dave Chinner
> david@fromorbit.com

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* RE: retrocompatibility XFS 2.10.1 with 2.8.1 ?
  2009-01-06  4:44   ` Eric Sandeen
@ 2009-01-06  8:06     ` Tritium Tritium
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Tritium Tritium @ 2009-01-06  8:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: sandeen, david; +Cc: xfs

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It's mad ...
It isn't any messages in dmesg output !
Only the mkfs output messages in the command line ...

"For what it's worth, you can just turn off the newer features when you  mkfs with the newer version, too"
How can I disable the new features ?

Thanks for your interst !


> From: sandeen@sandeen.net
> To: david@fromorbit.com
> Subject: Re: retrocompatibility XFS 2.10.1 with 2.8.1 ?
> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 22:44:51 -0600
> CC: tritium_helium@hotmail.com; xfs@oss.sgi.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 5, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 07:04:30PM +0000, Tritium Tritium wrote:
> >>
> >> HI !
> >>
> >> In first, I 'm a french user and sorry for my very bad english ...
> >> For an Adsl Box, I want to partitionning and format my external  
> >> hard disk drive under XFS .What a good idea , isn't it ? ;o)
> >> I get my Mandriva One (I know it isn't a "professionnal"  
> >> distribution but you know the French search the simple thing !) and  
> >> use fdisk -l , gparted and mkfs.xfs /dev/xxx .
> >> With this, the adsl box reboot ! And of course it doesn't recognize  
> >> the partition.
> >> I tried with a Debian Etch XFS ... and this is a SUCCESS !
> >> When I compare XFS versions I find a 2.10.1 for Mandriva and 2.8.1  
> >> for Debian.
> >
> > The defaults mkfs.xfs uses in 2.10.1 are different to 2.8.1. The
> > newer version enables features that are only availble in more recent
> > kernels (since about 2.6.19, IIRC), so it would seem that your ADSL
> > box has an old kernel on it that does not support the newer, faster,
> > shinier features XFS has....
> >
> > The kernel version of your ADSL box, as well as the mkfs.xfs output
> > from both distro's would help confirm this.
> 
> dmesg output after the failed mount would hopefully also offer some  
> clues..
> 
> For what it's worth, you can just turn off the newer features when you  
> mkfs with the newer version, too.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dave.
> > -- 
> > Dave Chinner
> > david@fromorbit.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > xfs mailing list
> > xfs@oss.sgi.com
> > http://oss.sgi.com/mailman/listinfo/xfs
> >

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* Re: retrocompatibility XFS 2.10.1 with 2.8.1 ?
  2009-01-06  8:03   ` Tritium Tritium
@ 2009-01-06 15:00     ` Eric Sandeen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Eric Sandeen @ 2009-01-06 15:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tritium Tritium; +Cc: xfs@oss.sgi.com



On Jan 6, 2009, at 2:03 AM, Tritium Tritium  
<tritium_helium@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Thanks for you response !
>
> unfortunately , I don't know the kernel version of my Adsl Box .
> I search in documentation and I don't find any item about a  
> parameter which take a compatibility with old xfs support .

Log in and type

    uname -a

-Eric
>
> Thanks and I hope see you later !
> Vince.
>
>> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:10:14 +1100
>> From: david@fromorbit.com
>> To: tritium_helium@hotmail.com
>> CC: xfs@oss.sgi.com
>> Subject: Re: retrocompatibility XFS 2.10.1 with 2.8.1 ?
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 07:04:30PM +0000, Tritium Tritium wrote:
>>>
>>> HI !
>>>
>>> In first, I 'm a french user and sorry for my very bad english ...
>>> For an Adsl Box, I want to partitionning and format my external  
>>> hard disk drive under XFS .What a good idea , isn't it ? ;o)
>>> I get my Mandriva One (I know it isn't a "professionnal"  
>>> distribution but you know the French search the simple thing !)  
>>> and use fdisk -l , gparted and mkfs.xfs /dev/xxx .
>>> With this, the adsl box reboot ! And of course it doesn't  
>>> recognize the partition.
>>> I tried with a Debian Etch XFS ... and this is a SUCCESS !
>>> When I compare XFS versions I find a 2.10.1 for Mandriva and 2.8.1  
>>> for Debian.
>>
>> The defaults mkfs.xfs uses in 2.10.1 are different to 2.8.1. The
>> newer version enables features that are only availble in more recent
>> kernels (since about 2.6.19, IIRC), so it would seem that your ADSL
>> box has an old kernel on it that does not support the newer, faster,
>> shinier features XFS has....
>>
>> The kernel version of your ADSL box, as well as the mkfs.xfs output
>> from both distro's would help confirm this.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dave.
>> -- 
>> Dave Chinner
>> david@fromorbit.com
>
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