From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Alex Elder <aelder@sgi.com>
Cc: xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: dropping dmapi support, was Re: [PATCH 00/17] pending patches
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:08:18 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100603170818.GA18591@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1275584506.2468.57.camel@doink>
On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 12:01:46PM -0500, Alex Elder wrote:
> I would like to have a chance to submit an alternative to simply
> removing that code. I recognize it sits in the first part of your
> patch series, and I will gladly do the work to rearrange them to
> put it at the end, in order to give me some time to develop my
> proposed change.
>
> Basically what I'd like to do is update the DMAPI support code
> so that it is much better isolated. I would like to replace
> the big ugly hunks that lie in common code paths with small
> function calls, so that their footprint is minimal and not
> distracting (along the lines of tracing calls).
>
> I got a start on doing this, and had hoped to send the result
> pretty soon after your initial posting of the patch, but that
> work unfortunately got preempted by other more pressing stuff.
> I wanted to provide actual code to help make the discussion
> of the merits of removal versus cleanup more concrete. I
> now think I'll be able to put something together within the
> next week or so.
I don't think it's a good idea. I'm happy to not burn all bridges
and leave certain code structured in a way that makes adding it easier,
but if the hooks are as easy as you say above they can easily live in
an out of tree patchset. The general Linux kernel policy is that we
don't keep hooks for out of tree code around, and I tend to agree to
it. We kept all that dmapi cruft in, and it's never served any
purpose for us. I think that HSM support is actually a very useful
feature, but the a kernel interface based on the DMAPI specification
much less so, and the horrible SGI implementation that used to be
in the XFS CVS tree even less so.
If you want to push a new one the metadata hooks really need to be
entirely outside the low-level filesystem, that is before calling
into the namespace inode operations, which is easily doable even
while keeping the current DMAPI core.
But what's much more difficult is the read/write path. The dmapi
code really gets in the way there, and I have additional simplification
of this code pending that require this cruft to go away. XFS currently
has a needlessly complicated write path, and getting closer to the
generic code will help us with lots of things like the upcoming multi
page write support.
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Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-31 16:07 [PATCH 00/17] pending patches Christoph Hellwig
2010-05-31 16:07 ` [PATCH 01/17] xfs: remove done roadmap item from xfs-delayed-logging-design.txt Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-02 4:33 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-31 16:07 ` [PATCH 02/17] xfs: skip writeback from reclaim context Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-02 4:39 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-02 10:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-02 23:02 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-03 6:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-05-31 16:07 ` [PATCH 03/17] xfs: improve xfs_isilocked Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-02 4:41 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-31 16:07 ` [PATCH 04/17] xfs: drop dmapi hooks Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-02 4:45 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-31 16:07 ` [PATCH 05/17] xfs: remove unneeded #include statements Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-02 4:45 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-31 16:07 ` [PATCH 06/17] xfs: simplify log item descriptor tracking Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-02 5:11 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-31 16:07 ` [PATCH 07/17] xfs: merge iop_unpin_remove into iop_unpin Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-02 5:14 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-31 16:07 ` [PATCH 08/17] xfs: give xfs_item_ops methods the correct prototypes Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-02 5:30 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-31 16:07 ` [PATCH 09/17] xfs: give li_cb callbacks the correct prototype Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-02 5:45 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-31 16:07 ` [PATCH 10/17] xfs: simplify buffer pinning Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-02 5:47 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-31 16:07 ` [PATCH 11/17] xfs: simplify inode to transaction joining Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-02 5:57 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-31 16:07 ` [PATCH 12/17] xfs: fix the xfs_log_iovec i_addr type Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-02 6:01 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-31 16:07 ` [PATCH 13/17] xfs: kill the unused xlog_debug variable Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-02 6:02 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-31 16:07 ` [PATCH 14/17] xfs: remove the unused XFS_LOG_SLEEP and XFS_LOG_NOSLEEP flags Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-02 6:02 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-31 16:07 ` [PATCH 15/17] xfs: remove the unused XFS_TRANS_NOSLEEP/XFS_TRANS_WAIT flags Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-02 6:03 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-31 16:07 ` [PATCH 16/17] xfs: remove unused XFS_BMAPI_ flags Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-02 6:04 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-31 16:07 ` [PATCH 17/17] xfs: remove unused delta tracking code in xfs_bmapi Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-02 6:11 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-02 6:13 ` [PATCH 00/17] pending patches Dave Chinner
2010-06-03 17:01 ` Alex Elder
2010-06-03 17:08 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2010-06-03 22:33 ` dropping dmapi support, was " Dave Chinner
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