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From: Geoffrey Wehrman <gwehrman@sgi.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: Issues with delalloc->real extent allocation
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:40:16 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110114164016.GB30134@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110114002900.GF16267@dastard>

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:29:00AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
| This seems to be incorrect to me - a "wasdelay" extent has not yet
| been initialised - there's data in memory, but there is nothing on
| disk and we may not write it for some time. If we crash after this
| transaction is written but before any data is written, we expose
| stale data.
| 
| Not only that, it allocates the _entire_ delalloc extent that spans
| the preallocation range, even when the preallocation range is only 1
| block and the delalloc extent covers gigabytes. hence we actually
| expose a much greater range of the file to stale data exposure
| during a crash than just eh preallocated range. Not good.
| 
| Secondly, I think we have the same expose-the-entire-delalloc-extent
| -to-stale-data-exposure problem in ->writepage. This onnne, however,
| is due to using BMAPI_ENTIRE to allocate the entire delalloc extent
| the first time any part of it is written to. Even if we are only
| writing a single page (i.e. wbc->nr_to_write = 1) and the delalloc
| extent covers gigabytes. So, same problem when we crash.
| 
| Finally, I think the extsize based problem exposed by test 229 is a
| also a result of allocating space we have no pages covering in the
| page cache (triggered by BMAPI_ENTIRE allocation) so the allocated
| space is never zeroed and hence exposes stale data.

There used to be an XFS_BMAPI_EXACT flag that wasn't ever used.  What
would be the effects of re-creating this flag and using it in writepage
to prevent the expose-the-entire-delalloc-extent-to-stale-data-exposure
problem?  This wouldn't solve the exposure of stale data for a crash
that occurs after the extent conversion but before the data is written
out.  The quantity of data exposed is potentially much smaller however.

Also, I'm not saying using XFS_BMAPI_EXACT is feasable.  I have a very
minimal understanding of the writepage code path.


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Geoffrey Wehrman  651-683-5496  gwehrman@sgi.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-14 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-14  0:29 Issues with delalloc->real extent allocation Dave Chinner
2011-01-14 16:40 ` Geoffrey Wehrman [this message]
2011-01-14 22:59   ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-15  4:16     ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2011-01-17  5:18       ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-17 14:37         ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2011-01-18  0:24           ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-18 14:30             ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2011-01-18 20:40               ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-18 22:03                 ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-14 21:43 ` bpm
2011-01-14 23:32   ` bpm
2011-01-14 23:50   ` bpm
2011-01-14 23:55   ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-17 20:12     ` bpm
2011-01-18  1:44       ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-18 20:47     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-18 23:18       ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-19 12:03         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-19 13:31           ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-19 13:55             ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-20  1:33               ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-20 11:16                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-21  1:59                   ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-20 14:45                 ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2011-01-21  2:51                   ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-21 14:41                     ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2011-01-23 23:26                       ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-17  0:28   ` Lachlan McIlroy
2011-01-17  4:37     ` Dave Chinner

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