From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Geoffrey Wehrman <gwehrman@sgi.com>
Cc: xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: Issues with delalloc->real extent allocation
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:24:37 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110118002437.GS28803@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110117143708.GE11968@sgi.com>
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 08:37:08AM -0600, Geoffrey Wehrman wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 04:18:28PM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> | On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:16:29PM -0600, Geoffrey Wehrman wrote:
> | > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 09:59:07AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> | > | On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:40:16AM -0600, Geoffrey Wehrman wrote:
> | > | > Also, I'm not saying using XFS_BMAPI_EXACT is feasible. I have a very
> | > | > minimal understanding of the writepage code path.
> | > |
> | > | I think there are situations where this does make sense, but given
> | > | the potential issues I'm not sure it is a solution that can be
> | > | extended to the general case. A good discussion point on a different
> | > | angle, though. ;)
> | >
> | > You've convinced me that XFS_BMAPI_EXACT is not the optimal solution.
> | >
> | > Upon further consideration, I do like your proposal to make delalloc
> | > allocation more like an intent/done type operation. The compatibility
> | > issues aren't all that bad. As long as the filesystem is unmounted
> | > clean, there is no need for the next mount do log recovery and therefore
> | > no need to have any knowledge of the new transactions.
> |
> | That is a good observation. If there is agreement that this a strong
> | enough backwards compatibility guarantee (it's good enough for me),
> | then I think that I will start to prototype this approach.
>
> I'm not sure how a version of XFS without the new log recovery code will
> behave if it encounters a log with the new transactions. I assume it
> will gracefully abort log recovery and fail the mount with the report of
> a corrupt log. I have no objection with this compatibility guarantee.
It will do the same as you describe for the old log recovery code,
so there should be no new problems there.
> | However, this does not solve the extsize allocation issues where we
> | don't have dirty pages in the page cache covering parts of the
> | delayed allocation extent so we still need a solution for that. I'm
> | tending towards zeroing in .aio_write as the simplest solution
> | because it doesn't cause buffer head/extent tree mapping mismatches,
> | and it would use the above intent/done operations for crash
> | resilience so there's no additional, rarely used code path to test
> | through .writepage. Does that sound reasonable?
>
> Zeroing in .aio_write will create zeroed pages covering the entire
> allocation, correct?
Yes, though it only needs to zero the regions that the write does
not cover itself - no need to zero what we're about to put data
into. ;)
Cheers,
Dave.
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Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-14 0:29 Issues with delalloc->real extent allocation Dave Chinner
2011-01-14 16:40 ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2011-01-14 22:59 ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-15 4:16 ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2011-01-17 5:18 ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-17 14:37 ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2011-01-18 0:24 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2011-01-18 14:30 ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2011-01-18 20:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-18 22:03 ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-14 21:43 ` bpm
2011-01-14 23:32 ` bpm
2011-01-14 23:50 ` bpm
2011-01-14 23:55 ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-17 20:12 ` bpm
2011-01-18 1:44 ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-18 20:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-18 23:18 ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-19 12:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-19 13:31 ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-19 13:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-20 1:33 ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-20 11:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-21 1:59 ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-20 14:45 ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2011-01-21 2:51 ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-21 14:41 ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2011-01-23 23:26 ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-17 0:28 ` Lachlan McIlroy
2011-01-17 4:37 ` Dave Chinner
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