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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: bpm@sgi.com, xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: Issues with delalloc->real extent allocation
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:55:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110119135548.GA11502@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110119133147.GN16267@dastard>

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:31:47AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > If we want to completely get rid of buffers heads things are a bit
> > more complicated.  It's doable as shown by the _nobh aops, but we'll
> > use quite a bit of per-block state that needs to be replaced by per-page
> > state,
> 
> Sure, or use a similar method to btrfs which stores dirty state bits
> in a separate extent tree. Worst case memory usage is still much
> less than a bufferhead per block...

I'm not sure need to track sub-page dirty state.  It only matters if we:

 a) have a file fragmented enough that it has multiple extents allocated
    inside a single page
 b) have enough small writes that just dirty parts of a page

with a good enough persistant preallocation a) should happen almost
never, while b) might be an issue, specially with setups of 64k
page size and 4k blocks (e.g. ppc64 enterprise distro configs)

> > and we'll lose the way to cache the block number in the buffer
> > head.  While we don't make use of that in writepage we do so in
> > the write path, although I'm not sure how important it is.  If we
> > get your multi-page write work in it probably won't matter any more.
> 
> The only place we use bh->b_blocknr is for ioend manipulation. Am I
> missing something else?

You're right.  I thought we use it in the write path, but we only
care about the buffer_mapped flag, but never actually look at the
block number.

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-19 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-14  0:29 Issues with delalloc->real extent allocation Dave Chinner
2011-01-14 16:40 ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2011-01-14 22:59   ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-15  4:16     ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2011-01-17  5:18       ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-17 14:37         ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2011-01-18  0:24           ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-18 14:30             ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2011-01-18 20:40               ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-18 22:03                 ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-14 21:43 ` bpm
2011-01-14 23:32   ` bpm
2011-01-14 23:50   ` bpm
2011-01-14 23:55   ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-17 20:12     ` bpm
2011-01-18  1:44       ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-18 20:47     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-18 23:18       ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-19 12:03         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-19 13:31           ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-19 13:55             ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2011-01-20  1:33               ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-20 11:16                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-21  1:59                   ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-20 14:45                 ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2011-01-21  2:51                   ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-21 14:41                     ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2011-01-23 23:26                       ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-17  0:28   ` Lachlan McIlroy
2011-01-17  4:37     ` Dave Chinner

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