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From: Michael Monnerie <michael.monnerie@is.it-management.at>
To: xfs@oss.sgi.com
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, Zhu Han <schumi.han@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Directory fsync
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 01:09:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201109240109.45532@zmi.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110923163354.GA24319@infradead.org>


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On Freitag, 23. September 2011 Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> As far as standards are concerned it is.  As far as the current XFS
> implementation is concerned you don't need it as the file fsync will
> also force out all transactions that belong to the create.

Aren't you giving O_PONIES to the users? ;-)

I understand your description, but we should always tell people to use a 
directory fsync to be sure. Their applications might run on other 
filesystems, or run for 10 years, and maybe XFS's implementation changes 
in between. And maybe in historical kernels even XFS's implementation 
wasn't like it's now?

@schumi: If your application should be able to run in a safe way on 
other filesystems, or other kernel releases, or other unixes, it's best 
to fsync the directory inode too. It's better to use it always, then 
nothing won't break.

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-23 23:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-23 15:12 Directory fsync Zhu Han
2011-09-23 16:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-23 23:09   ` Michael Monnerie [this message]
2011-09-24  1:20     ` Zhu Han
2011-10-01 23:20       ` Peter Grandi
2011-09-26  0:28     ` Dave Chinner
2011-09-26  0:51       ` Christoph Hellwig

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