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* wiki spam
@ 2012-06-18 13:33 Christoph Hellwig
  2012-06-18 13:39 ` Roger Willcocks
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From: Christoph Hellwig @ 2012-06-18 13:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: xfs

I just had to delete dozends of link farm spam entries on the xfs.org.

This is getting a bit out of control, so I'm wondring what we can do
about it.

I wonder if it's reasonable only to hand out account if a user manually
contacts one of the admins.  I don't want the bar high, just proving
to be able to writing a human person mail basically.

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* Re: wiki spam
  2012-06-18 13:33 wiki spam Christoph Hellwig
@ 2012-06-18 13:39 ` Roger Willcocks
  2012-06-19  1:29 ` Dave Chinner
  2012-06-19 17:43 ` Stan Hoeppner
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Roger Willcocks @ 2012-06-18 13:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christoph Hellwig; +Cc: xfs


On 18 Jun 2012, at 14:33, Christoph Hellwig wrote:

> I just had to delete dozends of link farm spam entries on the xfs.org.
> 
> This is getting a bit out of control, so I'm wondring what we can do
> about it.
> 
> I wonder if it's reasonable only to hand out account if a user manually
> contacts one of the admins.  I don't want the bar high, just proving
> to be able to writing a human person mail basically.
> 

That sounds reasonable to me - the list's presumably not huge so there shouldn't be an enormous amount of work involved.

--
Roger

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* Re: wiki spam
  2012-06-18 13:33 wiki spam Christoph Hellwig
  2012-06-18 13:39 ` Roger Willcocks
@ 2012-06-19  1:29 ` Dave Chinner
  2012-06-19 17:43 ` Stan Hoeppner
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Dave Chinner @ 2012-06-19  1:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christoph Hellwig; +Cc: xfs

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 09:33:23AM -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> I just had to delete dozends of link farm spam entries on the xfs.org.
> 
> This is getting a bit out of control, so I'm wondring what we can do
> about it.
> 
> I wonder if it's reasonable only to hand out account if a user manually
> contacts one of the admins.  I don't want the bar high, just proving
> to be able to writing a human person mail basically.

Sounds fine to me, I went through about a month ago and deleted a
bunch of spam myself. Even just requiring a confirmation email (i.e.
wiki sends an email with a confirm link) would be sufficient to
prevent most spam, I think....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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* Re: wiki spam
  2012-06-18 13:33 wiki spam Christoph Hellwig
  2012-06-18 13:39 ` Roger Willcocks
  2012-06-19  1:29 ` Dave Chinner
@ 2012-06-19 17:43 ` Stan Hoeppner
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Stan Hoeppner @ 2012-06-19 17:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: xfs

On 6/18/2012 8:33 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> I just had to delete dozends of link farm spam entries on the xfs.org.
> 
> This is getting a bit out of control, so I'm wondring what we can do
> about it.
> 
> I wonder if it's reasonable only to hand out account if a user manually
> contacts one of the admins.  I don't want the bar high, just proving
> to be able to writing a human person mail basically.

Perfectly reasonable.  Quite frankly I was surprised long ago when I
learned it was totally open, given the small size of the XFS community,
and the opportunity for mischief, or just factual errors, ala many
Wikipedia articles.

-- 
Stan

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* wiki spam
@ 2012-07-19 15:53 Eric Sandeen
  2012-07-24 13:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Eric Sandeen @ 2012-07-19 15:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: xfs-oss

We're back up to about a 3:1 ratio of spam to content on the wiki.

Constantly weeding it out is a poor use of our time... where are we at with this, have we required an account to create pages, at least?

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* Re: wiki spam
  2012-07-19 15:53 Eric Sandeen
@ 2012-07-24 13:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
  2012-07-24 14:43   ` Russell Cattelan
  2012-07-24 21:02   ` Russell Cattelan
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Christoph Hellwig @ 2012-07-24 13:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Sandeen, Russell Cattelan; +Cc: xfs-oss

On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:53:14AM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> We're back up to about a 3:1 ratio of spam to content on the wiki.
> 
> Constantly weeding it out is a poor use of our time... where are we at with this, have we required an account to create pages, at least?

I suspect Russell isn't reading the xfs list to actively any more.

Russell, any chance to disabllow posting for users that don't have an
account on the wiki?

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* Re: wiki spam
  2012-07-24 13:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
@ 2012-07-24 14:43   ` Russell Cattelan
  2012-07-24 21:02   ` Russell Cattelan
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Russell Cattelan @ 2012-07-24 14:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christoph Hellwig; +Cc: Eric Sandeen, xfs-oss


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On 7/24/12 8:23 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:53:14AM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote:
>> We're back up to about a 3:1 ratio of spam to content on the wiki.
>>
>> Constantly weeding it out is a poor use of our time... where are we at with this, have we required an account to create pages, at least?
> 
> I suspect Russell isn't reading the xfs list to actively any more.
ya I just have time to skim it these days.

> 
> Russell, any chance to disabllow posting for users that don't have an
> account on the wiki?
Well unfortunately I seem to remember doing that a while back. (I'll
check to make sure). I did notice that there are accounts showing up to
just post spam :-(. I have been going in once in a while and looking at
the recent changes page and deleting new pages/changes that are spam.

Maybe I can change it to approved only accounts can make changes.
I'll look into it.


I suppose like anything else nothing is perfect at keeping the spam away.

-Russell



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* Re: wiki spam
  2012-07-24 13:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
  2012-07-24 14:43   ` Russell Cattelan
@ 2012-07-24 21:02   ` Russell Cattelan
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Russell Cattelan @ 2012-07-24 21:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christoph Hellwig; +Cc: Eric Sandeen, xfs-oss

On 7/24/12 8:23 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:53:14AM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote:
>> We're back up to about a 3:1 ratio of spam to content on the wiki.
>>
>> Constantly weeding it out is a poor use of our time... where are we at with this, have we required an account to create pages, at least?
> I suspect Russell isn't reading the xfs list to actively any more.
>
> Russell, any chance to disabllow posting for users that don't have an
> account on the wiki?
Ok I updated mediawiki to 1.19 so that the ConfirmUser extension wold work.

All accounts must be approved by a sysop before they are active.
Hopefully I can just reject the obvious spam accounts.


There was some 1500 accounts on the system most of them with no edit's
so I just deleted those.

There is a bunch of spam accounts with 1 or 2 posts these should be deleted
with the mergeuser extension but that is a bit more time consuming.


Please let me know if the upgrade has caused any problems.

-Russell

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