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From: Josef Bacik <jbacik@fusionio.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: "linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Josef Bacik <JBacik@fusionio.com>,
	"xfs@oss.sgi.com" <xfs@oss.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [BULK]  Re: [PATCH] xfstests 311: test fsync with dm flakey V2
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 21:32:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130426013237.GO2631@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130426010829.GV30622@dastard>

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 07:08:29PM -0600, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 08:24:04PM -0400, Josef Bacik wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 04:45:56PM -0600, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:12:56AM -0400, Josef Bacik wrote:
> .....
> > > > +	$here/src/fsync-tester -s $SEED -r -t $test_num $extra $testfile
> > > > +	if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
> > > > +		_unmount_flakey
> > > > +		_cleanup
> > > > +		exit
> > > > +	fi
> > > > +
> > > > +	_md5_checksum $testfile
> > > > +	_drop_writes
> > > > +	_unmount_flakey
> > > 
> > > So, _drop_writes suspends the dm-flakey device, freezes the
> > > filesystem, turns off writes then thaws the filesystem, right?
> > >
> > > If so, doesn't that mean you're not actually testing fsync() as the
> > > freeze will effectively sync the entire filesystem before you start
> > > dropping writes?
> > > 
> > > I can see why you want to stop unmount from writing back metadata to
> > > simulate a crash, but if you've already frozen the filesystem then
> > > writeback has already occurred before you stop the writes. So I
> > > can't see how this is actually testing fsync - what it appears to be
> > > testing is the fileystem freeze code...
> > > 
> > > [ This is precisely the issue that XFS shutdown ioctls deal with to
> > > trigger an immediate forced shutdown of the filesystem that prevents
> > > *any* further writes from being issued by the filesystem - no sync
> > > operations get in the way and change the state of the filesystem
> > > after then fsync call, so we know that what is on disk is what was
> > > written by the sync/fsync calls being tested.
> > > 
> > > This is how we test sync/fsync in other XFS tests (e.g.
> > > xfs/137-140), and this is the reason why us XFS people have
> > > suggested that other filesystems should implement the ioctls for
> > > this functionality rather than try to invent new ways of trying
> > > to stop filesystems from writing back dirty metadata for fsync/sync
> > > testing....
> > > 
> > > Besides, if a corruption is detected, you need a method of stopping
> > > all dirty metadata from being written back in the filesystem to
> > > prevent propagation of the corruption.  These ioctls should just be
> > > an interface into that mechanism. ]
> > >
> > 
> > So I need to look at what this does.  I don't think it freezes the file system,
> 
> `dmsetup suspend` ends up in dm_suspend(). This calls lock_fs(), which
> calls freeze_bdev()....
> 
> If you do `dmsetup suspend --nolockfs` then it won't freeze the
> filesystem during the suspend...
>

Ok so I think I'll just make this test do all the iterations of the fsync tester
with and without --nolockfs, since without --nolockfs I'm still seeing problems,
does that sound reasonable?
 
> > because I've run this test and I definitely have a tree log on the file system
> > after I unmount, which means we didn't actually sync().  Either that or freeze()
> > is broken for btrfs and it's not actually causing the transaction to commit.
> 
> Entirely possible.
> 
> /me muses randomly about why we call them bugs when they are almost
> always layered like onions.....
> 

No kidding, I've spent all week unraveling various problems that this test has
uncovered.

> > If
> > it turns out that it is freeze() then it's not actually a fsync tester, but it
> > seems to still be a valid test since it's definitely causing problems for all
> > the file systems I've tested and I'll leave this as it is and then write another
> > real fsync tester.
> 
> ext4 as well?
>

Yeah ext4 blows up right after the first test, the md5sums match but fsck
complains loudly.
 
> > > How long does this take to run? It seems like the quick group would
> > > be appropriate if it takes less than a minute. Also, fsync tests
> > > fall under the category of "metadata" and "log", so they probably
> > > should be added, too.
> > > 
> > 
> > It takes 66 seconds to run on btrfs, is that fast enough for quick?  I'll add
> > metadata and log to the list as well.  Thanks for the thorough review,
> 
> Probably a bit too long for my liking - it won't be quick when there
> are several instances of VMs running xfstests on the same set of
> spindles....
> 

Yeah I had quick originally but when I finally got it to run I took it out since
66 seconds seemed too long to me.  Thanks,

Josef

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-26  1:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-25 14:12 [PATCH] xfstests 311: test fsync with dm flakey V2 Josef Bacik
2013-04-25 22:45 ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-26  0:24   ` [BULK] " Josef Bacik
2013-04-26  1:08     ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-26  1:32       ` Josef Bacik [this message]
2013-04-26  2:12         ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-26 19:31           ` Josef Bacik
2013-04-26 22:05             ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-26 22:32               ` Josef Bacik
2013-04-26 22:49                 ` Dave Chinner

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