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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Steve Bergman <sbergman27@gmail.com>
Cc: Stefan Ring <stefanrin@gmail.com>,
	Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>, Linux fs XFS <xfs@oss.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: Questions about XFS
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 07:03:12 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130611210312.GN29338@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAO9HMNEk1qNVGzM+a052O1y0nm3-cxqM17BGWBZDc1byfWTa7w@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 02:30:36PM -0500, Steve Bergman wrote:
> Thanks. But I'm specifically *not* talking about database apps, I'm
> talking about non-database applications written in languages that
> don't even have a concept of fsync.

I get it. You want a pony, and you don't want to pay anything for
it.

Any language is fundamentally broken if it has no concept and/or
method for ensuring data integrity for data that is written through
it. If you have such a language and you need data integrity then
your only filesystem option for guaranteeing no data loss is
synchronous writes and metadata updates. 

XFS allows you to minimise the impact of such legacy languages and
applications to just the data sets those applications use through
the use of 'chattr -S' and the /proc/sys/fs/xfs/xfs_inherit_sync
sysctl....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-11 21:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-11  9:56 Questions about XFS Steve Bergman
2013-06-11 13:10 ` Emmanuel Florac
2013-06-11 13:35 ` Stefan Ring
2013-06-11 13:52 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-06-11 13:59 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-06-11 16:12   ` Steve Bergman
2013-06-11 17:19     ` Ric Wheeler
2013-06-11 17:27       ` Stefan Ring
2013-06-11 17:31         ` Ric Wheeler
2013-06-11 17:41           ` Stefan Ring
2013-06-11 18:03             ` Eric Sandeen
2013-06-11 19:30           ` Steve Bergman
2013-06-11 21:03             ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2013-06-11 21:43               ` Steve Bergman
2013-06-11 17:59         ` Ben Myers
2013-06-11 17:28     ` Eric Sandeen
2013-06-11 19:17       ` Steve Bergman
2013-06-11 21:47         ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-22 14:59       ` Steve Bergman
2013-07-22 15:16         ` Steve Bergman
2013-06-12  8:26     ` Roger Oberholtzer
2013-06-12 10:34       ` Ric Wheeler
2013-06-12 13:52         ` Roger Oberholtzer
2013-06-12 12:12       ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-06-12 13:48         ` Roger Oberholtzer
2013-06-13  0:48       ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-11 19:35 ` Ben Myers
2013-06-11 19:55   ` Steve Bergman
2013-06-11 20:08     ` Ben Myers
2013-06-11 21:57     ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2013-06-11 22:18       ` Steve Bergman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-10-25 14:28 harryxiyou
2013-10-25 14:42 ` Emmanuel Florac
2013-10-25 14:57   ` Eric Sandeen
2013-10-25 16:24     ` harryxiyou
2013-10-25 16:44     ` harryxiyou
2013-10-26 10:41     ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-10-27  3:29       ` Eric Sandeen
2013-10-25 16:13   ` harryxiyou
2013-10-25 16:16     ` Eric Sandeen
2007-03-13 13:40 clflush
2007-03-13 15:36 ` Klaus Strebel
2007-03-13 15:53 ` Stein M. Hugubakken
2007-03-13 15:55 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-03-14 16:33 ` Stewart Smith
2007-03-15  4:26   ` Taisuke Yamada
2007-03-15  9:07     ` clflush
2007-03-15 14:41       ` Geir A. Myrestrand
2007-03-16 10:36       ` Martin Steigerwald
2007-03-17  0:47         ` Jason White

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