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From: Geoffrey Wehrman <gwehrman@sgi.com>
To: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
Cc: Mark Tinguely <tinguely@sgi.com>, xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 48/49] xfs: Add read-only support for dirent filetype field
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 13:04:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130815180400.GF3783@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <520C6E39.7030501@redhat.com>

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 06:59:21AM +0100, Ric Wheeler wrote:
| 
| As much as the community admires your brave willingness to protect us from 
| code that was entirely developed by Dave, that is not really how the 
| upstream kernel works.
| 
| Dave is pretty much without equal in moving XFS along these days and this 
| is a key feature that we are depending on.
| 
| Please don't try to create hurdles to other people getting work into 
| upstream, that kind of thing will lead to a fork of the XFS code base and 
| ultimately that will be harder for all of us.
| 
| It sounds like what you really should look at doing is to work inside of 
| SGI to create a private, internal branch of the upstream code that you 
| deliver in your product. Upstream code is all about innovation and new 
| features, we don't let vendor specific, non-upstream branches become the 
| place for hardening our code.

I agree Dave is a gifted, dedicated, passionate and prolific contributor
to the XFS community.  His contributions are greatly appreciated as are
the contributions of all other members of the XFS community.  Dave does
stand out as the most significant code contributor to the project.  He
has played a significant role moving XFS forward both from within SGI
and from outside SGI.  This does not place his contributions beyond
review or discussion however.

My objection to the current readdir filetype field feature code is that
the feature is not being made available to mainstream XFS users, only
to those willing to run experimental code.  Dave has clearly stated that
he will not do the back-porting work.  I am not expecting Dave to do the
back-porting work.  Mark has volunteered to fill the back-porting role.
Th porting work cannot be completed as the feature is not yet complete.
The associated user space code changes have not been submitted,
and tests to validate the new feature have not been submitted.  I do
not consider this to be an unreasonable request, even if there were
back-porting required.

If Red Hat is depending on the readdir filetype field feature from Dave
and do not wish to wait for the feature to be completed before pulling
in the code, then perhaps Red Hat should create a internal branch of
the upstream code that you can deliver in your products.  The upstream
code should be stable and fully functional, not a place for incomplete,
partially tested, half finished work.


-- 
Geoffrey Wehrman  651-683-5496  gwehrman@sgi.com

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Thread overview: 158+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-19  6:24 [PATCH 00/49] current patch queue for 3.12 Dave Chinner
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 01/49] xfs: separate out log format definitions Dave Chinner
2013-07-23 14:00   ` Brian Foster
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 02/49] xfs: split out inode log item format definition Dave Chinner
2013-07-23 14:00   ` Brian Foster
2013-07-30 16:20   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-08-01  8:50     ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 03/49] xfs: split out buf log item format definitions Dave Chinner
2013-07-23 14:01   ` Brian Foster
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 04/49] xfs: split out inode log item format definition Dave Chinner
2013-07-23 14:01   ` Brian Foster
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 05/49] xfs: separate dquot on disk format definitions out of xfs_quota.h Dave Chinner
2013-07-24 12:09   ` Brian Foster
2013-08-01  8:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-08-02  1:44     ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 06/49] xfs: separate icreate log format definitions from xfs_icreate_item.h Dave Chinner
2013-07-24 12:09   ` Brian Foster
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 07/49] xfs: split out on-disk transaction definitions Dave Chinner
2013-07-24 12:09   ` Brian Foster
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 08/49] xfs: introduce xfs_rtalloc_defs.h Dave Chinner
2013-07-24 12:09   ` Brian Foster
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 09/49] xfs: introduce xfs_quota_defs.h Dave Chinner
2013-07-25 12:54   ` Brian Foster
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 10/49] xfs: sync minor header differences needed by userspace Dave Chinner
2013-07-25 12:54   ` Brian Foster
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 11/49] xfs: split out transaction reservation code Dave Chinner
2013-07-25 12:55   ` Brian Foster
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 12/49] xfs: move inode fork definitions to a new header file Dave Chinner
2013-07-25 20:40   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 13/49] xfs: move unrealted definitions out of xfs_inode.h Dave Chinner
2013-07-25 19:24   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 14/49] xfs: introduce xfs_inode_buf.c for inode buffer operations Dave Chinner
2013-07-25 19:17   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-26  0:24     ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-26 12:41   ` Brian Foster
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 15/49] xfs: move getdents code into it's own file Dave Chinner
2013-07-26 13:00   ` Brian Foster
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 16/49] xfs: reshuffle dir2 definitions around for userspace Dave Chinner
2013-07-26 13:18   ` Brian Foster
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 17/49] xfs: split out attribute listing code into separate file Dave Chinner
2013-07-27 20:23   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 18/49] xfs: split out attribute fork truncation " Dave Chinner
2013-07-27 19:25   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 19/49] xfs: split out the remote symlink handling Dave Chinner
2013-07-27 19:48   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 20/49] xfs: introduce xfs_sb.c for sharing with libxfs Dave Chinner
2013-07-27 17:54   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-28  1:08     ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 21/49] xfs: create xfs_bmap_util.[ch] Dave Chinner
2013-07-27 17:57   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 22/49] xfs: minor cleanups Dave Chinner
2013-07-27 18:00   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-28  1:07     ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 23/49] xfs: fix issues that cause userspace warnings Dave Chinner
2013-07-27 18:02   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 24/49] xfs: kill xfs_vnodeops.[ch] Dave Chinner
2013-07-26 19:18   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-27  1:55     ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-27 18:58       ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 25/49] xfs: consolidate xfs_rename.c Dave Chinner
2013-07-26 19:33   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 26/49] xfs: consolidate xfs_utils.c Dave Chinner
2013-07-26 20:16   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 27/49] xfs: consolidate extent swap code Dave Chinner
2013-07-26 21:16   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:24 ` [PATCH 28/49] xfs: don't special case shared superblock mounts Dave Chinner
2013-07-26 15:32   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:25 ` [PATCH 29/49] xfs: kill __KERNEL__ check for debug code in allocation code Dave Chinner
2013-07-26 15:07   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:25 ` [PATCH 30/49] xfs: remove __KERNEL__ from debug code Dave Chinner
2013-07-26 15:03   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:25 ` [PATCH 31/49] xfs: remove __KERNEL__ check from xfs_dir2_leaf.c Dave Chinner
2013-07-26 14:16   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:25 ` [PATCH 32/49] xfs: xfs_filestreams.h doesn't need __KERNEL__ Dave Chinner
2013-07-26 14:10   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:25 ` [PATCH 33/49] xfs: move kernel specific type definitions to xfs.h Dave Chinner
2013-07-26 13:51   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:25 ` [PATCH 34/49] xfs: make struct xfs_perag kernel only Dave Chinner
2013-07-26 13:32   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:25 ` [PATCH 35/49] xfs: Introduce a new structure to hold transaction reservation items Dave Chinner
2013-07-22 13:05   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:25 ` [PATCH 36/49] xfs: Introduce tr_fsyncts to m_reservation Dave Chinner
2013-07-22 13:22   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:25 ` [PATCH 37/49] xfs: Make writeid transaction use tr_writeid Dave Chinner
2013-07-22 13:23   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:25 ` [PATCH 38/49] xfs: refactor xfs_trans_reserve() interface Dave Chinner
2013-07-22 13:27   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-22 23:37     ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-19  6:25 ` [PATCH 39/49] xfs: Get rid of all XFS_XXX_LOG_RES() macro Dave Chinner
2013-07-22 13:31   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:25 ` [PATCH 40/49] xfs: Refactor xfs_ticket_alloc() to extract a new helper Dave Chinner
2013-07-22 13:49   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:25 ` [PATCH 41/49] xfs: Add xfs_log_rlimit.c Dave Chinner
2013-07-23 15:15   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:25 ` [PATCH 42/49] xfs: Validate log space at mount time Dave Chinner
2013-07-22 13:55   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-25  4:11   ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-19  6:25 ` [PATCH 43/49] xfs: return log item size in IOP_SIZE Dave Chinner
2013-07-23 18:22   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-08-01  8:18   ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-07-19  6:25 ` [PATCH 44/49] xfs: Reduce allocations during CIL insertion Dave Chinner
2013-07-23 21:15   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-23 21:44     ` Michael L. Semon
2013-07-24 13:28       ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-24 19:20         ` Michael L. Semon
2013-07-25  0:21         ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-25 15:02           ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-26  0:32             ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-26 20:46         ` Michael L. Semon
2013-07-26 21:06           ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-26 22:19             ` Michael L. Semon
2013-07-27  1:58             ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-27 18:32               ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-28  1:12                 ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-29 14:15                   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-30  0:30                     ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-30 13:31                       ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-30 22:19                         ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-19  6:25 ` [PATCH 45/49] xfs: avoid CIL allocation during insert Dave Chinner
2013-07-29 18:13   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:25 ` [PATCH 46/49] xfs: Combine CIL insert and prepare passes Dave Chinner
2013-07-23 21:21   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-25  0:23     ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-29 21:07   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:25 ` [PATCH 47/49] xfs: split the CIL lock Dave Chinner
2013-07-29 22:24   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-07-19  6:25 ` [PATCH 48/49] xfs: Add read-only support for dirent filetype field Dave Chinner
2013-07-30 19:10   ` Mark Tinguely
2013-08-12  0:59     ` ***** SUSPECTED SPAM ***** " Dave Chinner
2013-08-12 13:25       ` Mark Tinguely
2013-08-13  0:50         ` Dave Chinner
2013-08-13 15:42           ` Mark Tinguely
2013-08-13 15:57             ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-08-14  7:50             ` Dave Chinner
2013-08-14 18:47               ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2013-08-15  4:22                 ` Dave Chinner
2013-08-15 17:39                   ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2013-08-15  5:59                 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-08-15 18:04                   ` Geoffrey Wehrman [this message]
2013-08-15 21:41                     ` Ric Wheeler
2013-08-16 14:08                       ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2013-08-19  5:28                         ` Dave Chinner
2013-08-19 18:48                           ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2013-08-20  2:23                             ` Dave Chinner
2013-08-20 14:30                               ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2013-08-20 18:27                                 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-08-20 19:47                         ` Eric Sandeen
2013-08-15 16:50                 ` Eric Sandeen
2013-08-15 18:32                   ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2013-08-15 18:41                     ` Eric Sandeen
2013-08-15 19:06                       ` Geoffrey Wehrman
2013-08-15 18:54                   ` Ben Myers
2013-08-15 22:40   ` Ben Myers
2013-07-19  6:25 ` [PATCH 49/49] xfs: Add write " Dave Chinner
2013-07-21  6:23 ` [PATCH 00/49] current patch queue for 3.12 Michael L. Semon
2013-07-22 23:43   ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-23  1:00     ` Michael L. Semon
2013-08-01 21:21 ` Ben Myers

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