From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from relay.sgi.com (relay3.corp.sgi.com [198.149.34.15]) by oss.sgi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C8C7F9F for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2013 17:44:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from cuda.sgi.com (cuda1.sgi.com [192.48.157.11]) by relay3.corp.sgi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536F5AC003 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2013 15:44:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.suse.de (cantor2.suse.de [195.135.220.15]) by cuda.sgi.com with ESMTP id vDP7NdUBAZBC8hcw for ; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 15:44:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2013 10:44:24 +1100 From: NeilBrown Subject: Re: [PATCH] update xfs maintainers Message-ID: <20131109104424.45b71dac@notabene.brown> In-Reply-To: References: <20131107220208.GY1935@sgi.com> <527C0F64.3010906@sgi.com> <527C4B27.6020205@redhat.com> <527CC50D.4060905@redhat.com> <20131108180337.GO10553@sgi.com> <20131108193424.GA11052@infradead.org> <20131108204605.GA1935@sgi.com> <527D4E8D.3000109@redhat.com> <20131108220309.GB1935@sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 List-Id: XFS Filesystem from SGI List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8390332047969635464==" Errors-To: xfs-bounces@oss.sgi.com Sender: xfs-bounces@oss.sgi.com To: Zhi Yong Wu Cc: elder@kernel.org, Mark Tinguely , Linus Torvalds , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , xfstests , Christoph Hellwig , Ben Myers , Ric Wheeler --===============8390332047969635464== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/ZJLaGD0NzuLPED6VFKEZ+tC"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" --Sig_/ZJLaGD0NzuLPED6VFKEZ+tC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 06:59:00 +0800 Zhi Yong Wu wrote: > On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 6:03 AM, Ben Myers wrote: > > Hey Ric, > > > > On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 03:50:21PM -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote: > >> On 11/08/2013 03:46 PM, Ben Myers wrote: > >> >Hey Christoph, > >> > > >> >On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 11:34:24AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > >> >>On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 12:03:37PM -0600, Ben Myers wrote: > >> >>>Mark is replacing Alex as my backup because Alex is really busy at > >> >>>Linaro and asked to be taken off awhile ago. The holiday season is > >> >>>coming up and I fully intend to go off my meds, turn in to Fonzy the > >> >>>bear, and eat my hat. I need someone to watch the shop while I'm o= ff > >> >>>exploring on Mars. I trust Mark to do that because he is totally > >> >>>awesome. > >> >> > >> >>Doing this as an unilateral decisions is not something that will win= you > >> >>a fan base. > >> >It's posted for review. > >> > > >> >>While we never had anything reassembling a democracy in Linux Kernel > >> >>development making decisions without even contacting the major > >> >>contributor is wrong, twice so if the maintainer is a relatively min= or > >> >>contributor to start with. > >> >> > >> >>Just because it recent came up elsewhere I'd like to recite the > >> >>definition from Trond here again: > >> >> > >> >> http://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/ksummit-2012-discuss= /2012-June/000066.html > >> >> > >> >>By many of the creative roles enlisted there it's clear that Dave sh= ould > >> >>be the maintainer. He's been the main contributor and chief archite= ct > >> >>for XFS for many year, while the maintainers came and went at the me= rcy > >> >>of SGI. This is not meant to bad mouth either of you as I think you= 're > >> >>doing a reasonably good job compared to other maintainers, but at the > >> >>same time the direction is set by other people that have a much long= er > >> >>involvement with the project, and having them officially in control > >> >>would help us forward a lot. It would also avoid having to spend > >> >>considerable resources to train every new generation of SGI maintain= er. > >> >> > >> >>Coming to and end I would like to maintain Dave Chinner as the prima= ry > >> >>XFS maintainer for all the work he has done as biggest contributor a= nd > >> >>architect of XFS since longer than I can remember, and I would love = to > >> >>retain Ben Myers as a co-maintainer for all the good work he has done > >> >>maintaining and reviewing patches since November 2011. > >> >I think we're doing a decent job too. So thanks for that much at lea= st. ;) > >> >>I would also like to use this post as a public venue to condemn the > >> >>unilateral smokey backroom decisions about XFS maintainership that S= GI is > >> >>trying to enforce on the community. > >> >That really didn't happen Christoph. It's not in my tree or in a pul= l request. > >> > > >> >Linus, let me know what you want to do. I do think we're doing a fai= r job over > >> >here, and (geez) I'm just trying to add Mark as my backup since Alex = is too > >> >busy. I know the RH people want more control, and that's understanda= ble, but > >> >they really don't need to replace me to get their code in. Ouch. > >> > > >> >Thanks, > >> > Ben > >> > >> Christoph is not a Red Hat person. > >> > >> Jeff is from Oracle. > >> > >> This is not a Red Hat vs SGI thing, > > > > Sorry if my read on that was wrong. > > > >> Dave simply has earned the right > >> to take on the formal leadership role of maintainer. > > > > Then we're gonna need some Reviewed-bys. ;) > > > > From: Ben Myers > > > > xfs: update maintainers > > > > Add Dave as maintainer of XFS. > > > > Signed-off-by: Ben Myers > > --- > > MAINTAINERS | 2 +- > > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) > > > > Index: b/MAINTAINERS > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > --- a/MAINTAINERS 2013-11-08 15:20:18.935186245 -0600 > > +++ b/MAINTAINERS 2013-11-08 15:22:50.685245977 -0600 > > @@ -9387,8 +9387,8 @@ F: drivers/xen/*swiotlb* > > > > XFS FILESYSTEM > > P: Silicon Graphics Inc > > +M: Dave Chinner > Use his personal private mail account? I guess that you should ask for > his opinion at first, or it is more appropriate that he submit this > patch by himself. >=20 Indeed. And does he even want the job? I heard Linus say in a recent interview that being a maintainer is a $#!+ job. Is it really best for the most active developers to be burdened with that extra work? (hmm.. maybe I should add Dave to the Cc here .. but no-one else did so best leave him alone to code in peace). 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