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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Alex Lyakas <alex@zadarastorage.com>
Cc: xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: Questions about XFS discard and xfs_free_extent() code (newbie)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 10:00:18 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131226230018.GJ20579@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8155F3F9D6094F40B4DA71BD561D2DE8@alyakaslap>

On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 08:21:50PM +0200, Alex Lyakas wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> Reading through the code some more, I see that the extent that is
> freed through xfs_free_extent() can be an XFS metadata extent as
> well.
> For example, xfs_inobt_free_block() frees a block of the AG's
> free-inode btree. Also, xfs_bmbt_free_block() frees a generic btree
> block by putting it onto the cursor's "to-be-freed" list, which will
> be dropped into the free-space btree (by xfs_free_extent) in
> xfs_bmap_finish(). If we discard such metadata block before the
> transaction is committed to the log and we crash, we might not be
> able to properly mount after reboot, is that right?

Yes. The log stores a delta of the transactional changes, and so
requires th eprevious version of the block to be intact for revoery
to take place.

> I mean it's not
> that some file's data block will show 0s to the user instead of
> before-delete data, but some XFS btree node (for example) will be
> wiped in such case. Can this happen?

Yes, it could. That's what I meant by:

[snip]

> > IOWs, issuing the discard before the transaction that frees the
> > extent is on stable storage means we are discarding user data or
                                                                  ^^
> > metadata before we've guaranteed that the extent free transaction
    ^^^^^^^^
> > is permanent and that means we violate certain guarantees with
> > respect to crash recovery...

The "or metadata" part of the above sentence.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-26 23:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-18 18:37 Questions about XFS discard and xfs_free_extent() code (newbie) Alex Lyakas
2013-12-18 23:06 ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-19  9:24   ` Alex Lyakas
2013-12-19 10:55     ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-19 19:24       ` Alex Lyakas
2013-12-21 17:03         ` Chris Murphy
2013-12-24 18:21       ` Alex Lyakas
2013-12-26 23:00         ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2014-01-08 18:13           ` Alex Lyakas
2014-01-13  3:02             ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-13 17:44               ` Alex Lyakas
2014-01-13 20:43                 ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-14 13:48                   ` Alex Lyakas
2014-01-15  1:45                     ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-19  9:38                       ` Alex Lyakas
2014-01-19 23:17                         ` Dave Chinner
2014-07-01 15:06                           ` xfs_growfs_data_private memory leak Alex Lyakas
2014-07-01 21:56                             ` Dave Chinner
2014-07-02 12:27                               ` Alex Lyakas
2014-08-04 18:15                                 ` Eric Sandeen
2014-08-06  8:56                                   ` Alex Lyakas
2014-08-04 11:00                             ` use-after-free on log replay failure Alex Lyakas
2014-08-04 14:12                               ` Brian Foster
2014-08-04 23:07                               ` Dave Chinner
2014-08-06 10:05                                 ` Alex Lyakas
2014-08-06 12:32                                   ` Dave Chinner
2014-08-06 14:43                                     ` Alex Lyakas
2014-08-10 16:26                                     ` Alex Lyakas
2014-08-06 12:52                                 ` Alex Lyakas
2014-08-06 15:20                                   ` Brian Foster
2014-08-06 15:28                                     ` Alex Lyakas
2014-08-10 12:20                                     ` Alex Lyakas
2014-08-11 13:20                                       ` Brian Foster
2014-08-11 21:52                                         ` Dave Chinner
2014-08-12 12:03                                           ` Brian Foster
2014-08-12 12:39                                             ` Alex Lyakas
2014-08-12 19:31                                               ` Brian Foster
2014-08-12 23:56                                               ` Dave Chinner
2014-08-13 12:59                                                 ` Brian Foster
2014-08-13 20:59                                                   ` Dave Chinner
2014-08-13 23:21                                                     ` Brian Foster
2014-08-14  6:14                                                       ` Dave Chinner
2014-08-14 19:05                                                         ` Brian Foster
2014-08-14 22:27                                                           ` Dave Chinner
2014-08-13 17:07                                                 ` Alex Lyakas
2014-08-13  0:03                                               ` Dave Chinner
2014-08-13 13:11                                                 ` Brian Foster

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