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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: dchinner@redhat.com, oleg@redhat.com, xfs@oss.sgi.com,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, mgorman@suse.de,
	rientjes@google.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, fernando_b1@lab.ntt.co.jp,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: How to handle TIF_MEMDIE stalls?
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 10:13:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150220091326.GD21248@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201502200029.DEG78137.QFVLHFFOJMtOOS@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Fri 20-02-15 00:29:29, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Thu 19-02-15 13:29:14, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > [...]
> > > Something like the following.
> > __GFP_HIGH doesn't seem to be sufficient so we would need something
> > slightly else but the idea is still the same:
> > 
> > diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
> > index 8d52ab18fe0d..2d224bbdf8e8 100644
> > --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
> > +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
> > @@ -2599,6 +2599,7 @@ __alloc_pages_slowpath(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
> >  	enum migrate_mode migration_mode = MIGRATE_ASYNC;
> >  	bool deferred_compaction = false;
> >  	int contended_compaction = COMPACT_CONTENDED_NONE;
> > +	int oom = 0;
> >  
> >  	/*
> >  	 * In the slowpath, we sanity check order to avoid ever trying to
> > @@ -2635,6 +2636,15 @@ retry:
> >  	alloc_flags = gfp_to_alloc_flags(gfp_mask);
> >  
> >  	/*
> > +	 * __GFP_NOFAIL allocations cannot fail but yet the current context
> > +	 * might be blocking resources needed by the OOM victim to terminate.
> > +	 * Allow the caller to dive into memory reserves to succeed the
> > +	 * allocation and break out from a potential deadlock.
> > +	 */
> 
> We don't know how many callers will pass __GFP_NOFAIL. But if 1000
> threads are doing the same operation which requires __GFP_NOFAIL
> allocation with a lock held, wouldn't memory reserves deplete?

We shouldn't have an unbounded number of GFP_NOFAIL allocations at the
same time. This would be even more broken. If a load is known to use
such allocations excessively then the administrator can enlarge the
memory reserves.

> This heuristic can't continue if memory reserves depleted or
> continuous pages of requested order cannot be found.

Once memory reserves are depleted we are screwed anyway and we might
panic.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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2015-02-17 22:54             ` How to handle TIF_MEMDIE stalls? Dave Chinner
2015-02-17 23:32               ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-18  8:25               ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-18 10:48                 ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-18 12:16                   ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-18 21:31                     ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-19  9:40                       ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-19 22:03                         ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-20  9:27                           ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-19 11:01                     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-02-19 12:29                       ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-19 12:58                         ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-19 15:29                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-02-19 21:53                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-02-20  9:13                             ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2015-02-20 13:37                               ` Stefan Ring
2015-02-19 13:29                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-02-20  9:10                           ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-20 12:20                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-02-20 12:38                               ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-19 21:43                         ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-20 12:48                           ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-20 23:09                             ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-19 10:24               ` Johannes Weiner
2015-02-19 22:52                 ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-20 10:36                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-02-20 23:15                     ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-21  3:20                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-02-21  9:19                         ` Andrew Morton
2015-02-21 13:48                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-02-21 21:38                           ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-22  0:20                           ` Johannes Weiner
2015-02-23 10:48                             ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-23 11:23                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-02-23 21:33                             ` David Rientjes
2015-02-21 12:00                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-02-23 10:26                         ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-21 11:12                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-02-21 21:48                         ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-21 23:52                   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-02-23  0:45                     ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-23  1:29                       ` Andrew Morton
2015-02-23  7:32                         ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-27 18:24                           ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-02-28  0:03                             ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-28 15:17                               ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-03-02  9:39                           ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-03-02 22:31                             ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-03  9:13                               ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-03-04  1:33                                 ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-04  8:50                                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-03-04 11:03                                     ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-07  0:20                               ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-07  3:43                                 ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-07 15:08                                   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-02 20:22                           ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-02 23:12                             ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-03  2:50                               ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-04  6:52                                 ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-04 15:04                                   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-04 17:38                                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-03-04 23:17                                       ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-28 16:29                       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-02-28 16:41                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-02-28 22:15                           ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-01 11:17                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-03-06 11:53                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-03-01 13:43                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-03-01 16:15                               ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-01 19:36                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-03-01 20:44                                   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-01 20:17                               ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-01 21:48                             ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-02  0:17                               ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-02 12:46                                 ` Brian Foster
2015-02-28 18:36                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-03-02 15:18                       ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-02 16:05                         ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-02 17:10                           ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-02 17:27                             ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-02 16:39                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-03-02 16:58                           ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-04 12:52                             ` Dave Chinner

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