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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	dchinner@redhat.com, oleg@redhat.com, xfs@oss.sgi.com,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, mgorman@suse.de, rientjes@google.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: How to handle TIF_MEMDIE stalls?
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 13:48:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150220124849.GH21248@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150219214356.GW12722@dastard>

On Fri 20-02-15 08:43:56, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 01:29:14PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Thu 19-02-15 06:01:24, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > [...]
> > > Preferrably, we'd get rid of all nofail allocations and replace them
> > > with preallocated reserves.  But this is not going to happen anytime
> > > soon, so what other option do we have than resolving this on the OOM
> > > killer side?
> > 
> > As I've mentioned in other email, we might give GFP_NOFAIL allocator
> > access to memory reserves (by giving it __GFP_HIGH).
> 
> Won't work when you have thousands of concurrent transactions
> running in XFS and they are all doing GFP_NOFAIL allocations.

Is there any bound on how many transactions can run at the same time?

> That's why I suggested the per-transaction reserve pool - we can use
> that

I am still not sure what you mean by reserve pool (API wise). How
does it differ from pre-allocating memory before the "may not fail
context"? Could you elaborate on it, please?

> to throttle the number of concurent contexts demanding memory for
> forwards progress, just the same was we throttle the number of
> concurrent processes based on maximum log space requirements of the
> transactions and the amount of unreserved log space available.
> 
> No log space, transaction reservations waits on an ordered queue for
> space to become available. No memory available, transaction
> reservation waits on an ordered queue for memory to become
> available.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave.
> -- 
> Dave Chinner
> david@fromorbit.com

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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2015-02-17 22:54             ` How to handle TIF_MEMDIE stalls? Dave Chinner
2015-02-17 23:32               ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-18  8:25               ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-18 10:48                 ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-18 12:16                   ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-18 21:31                     ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-19  9:40                       ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-19 22:03                         ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-20  9:27                           ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-19 11:01                     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-02-19 12:29                       ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-19 12:58                         ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-19 15:29                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-02-19 21:53                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-02-20  9:13                             ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-20 13:37                               ` Stefan Ring
2015-02-19 13:29                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-02-20  9:10                           ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-20 12:20                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-02-20 12:38                               ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-19 21:43                         ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-20 12:48                           ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2015-02-20 23:09                             ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-19 10:24               ` Johannes Weiner
2015-02-19 22:52                 ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-20 10:36                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-02-20 23:15                     ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-21  3:20                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-02-21  9:19                         ` Andrew Morton
2015-02-21 13:48                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-02-21 21:38                           ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-22  0:20                           ` Johannes Weiner
2015-02-23 10:48                             ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-23 11:23                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-02-23 21:33                             ` David Rientjes
2015-02-21 12:00                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-02-23 10:26                         ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-21 11:12                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-02-21 21:48                         ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-21 23:52                   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-02-23  0:45                     ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-23  1:29                       ` Andrew Morton
2015-02-23  7:32                         ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-27 18:24                           ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-02-28  0:03                             ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-28 15:17                               ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-03-02  9:39                           ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-03-02 22:31                             ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-03  9:13                               ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-03-04  1:33                                 ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-04  8:50                                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-03-04 11:03                                     ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-07  0:20                               ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-07  3:43                                 ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-07 15:08                                   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-02 20:22                           ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-02 23:12                             ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-03  2:50                               ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-04  6:52                                 ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-04 15:04                                   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-04 17:38                                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-03-04 23:17                                       ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-28 16:29                       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-02-28 16:41                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-02-28 22:15                           ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-01 11:17                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-03-06 11:53                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-03-01 13:43                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-03-01 16:15                               ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-01 19:36                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-03-01 20:44                                   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-01 20:17                               ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-01 21:48                             ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-02  0:17                               ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-02 12:46                                 ` Brian Foster
2015-02-28 18:36                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-03-02 15:18                       ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-02 16:05                         ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-02 17:10                           ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-02 17:27                             ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-02 16:39                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-03-02 16:58                           ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-04 12:52                             ` Dave Chinner

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