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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: xfs@oss.sgi.com, darrick.wong@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] allow enabling reflinks at runtime
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 09:33:44 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160609233344.GA26977@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160608071130.GB24663@lst.de>

On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 09:11:30AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 08:54:15AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 04:19:07PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > I've had some vocal user requests to allow enabling reflinks at run time,
> > > which happens to be a mostly trivial feature.  The only caveat is that we
> > > need a large enough log size to support the reflink requirements, but for
> > > typical large file systems that's not an issue.
> > 
> > Hmmm - how does this interact with all the rmap code? I was not
> > planning on enabling reflink without rmap and vice versa simply
> > because it makes the validation and testing matrix vastly more
> > complex.
> 
> Uh.  So far I've only been testing pure reflink code, mostly because
> rmap really doesn't buy much for the use case I'm working on.
> Enabling rmap post-mkfs is defintively a different ballpark, and probably
> not worth it even if it would be doable.

Wasn't expecting rmap to ever be dynamically enabled ;)

So ignoring the testing side of things, and looking more at the
implementation of the enabling, I'm not sure I really like the idea
of doing this via a mount option. Because we've got to make
significant additions to the on disk format in each AG, this seems
more like a "growfs style" operation than anything. i.e. lock out
allocation, add all the structures to the AG headers and allocate
all the blocks needed, re-initialise the per-ag structures with all
the necessary info, then switch on the feature bit and commit the
change.

It's probably a little more intricate than doing it at mount time,
but it gets around the fact that users have to add a mount option
and bounce the filesystem to turn on reflinks.
I can see this being much easier than a mount option in some
situations, (e.g. for the root filesystem), and I don't think it's
much harder to test than the mount option (e.g. the way growfs is
tested under stress by xfs/104)...

Your thoughts, Christoph?

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-06-09 23:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-02 14:19 [RFC] allow enabling reflinks at runtime Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-02 14:19 ` [PATCH 1/3] xfs: add xfs_mp_hasreflink Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-02 14:19 ` [PATCH 2/3] xfs: refactor xfs_refcountbt_alloc_block Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-02 14:19 ` [PATCH 3/3] xfs: add an option to enable reflinks at mount time Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-06 11:23   ` Carlos Maiolino
2016-06-06 11:29     ` Carlos Maiolino
2016-06-06 16:52       ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-06-08  7:04     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-08  8:07       ` Carlos Maiolino
2016-06-08  8:10         ` Carlos Maiolino
2016-06-09 22:57           ` Dave Chinner
2016-06-02 22:54 ` [RFC] allow enabling reflinks at runtime Dave Chinner
2016-06-03  1:58   ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-06-06 18:52     ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-06-08  7:10     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-08  7:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-09 17:45     ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-06-09 23:33     ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2016-07-13  5:36       ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-10-26 20:49 ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-11-03 16:10   ` Christoph Hellwig

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