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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	CAI Qian <caiqian@redhat.com>,
	linux-xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: xfs_file_splice_read: possible circular locking dependency detected
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 00:55:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160908235521.GL2356@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160908213835.GY30056@dastard>

On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 07:38:35AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:

> It's not an XFS specific problem: any filesystem that supports hole
> punch and it's fallocate() friends needs this high level splice IO
> exclusion as well.

How is hole punch different from truncate()?  My reading of the situation
is that we don't need exclusion between that and insertion into pipe;
only for "gather uptodate page references" part.  If some page gets
evicted afterwards... how is that different from having that happen
right after we'd finished with ->splice_read()?  Am I missing something
subtle in there?

I'm still looking at the O_DIRECT paths in that stuff; we'll probably
need iov_iter_get_pages() for these suckers to allocate pages and stick
them into slots.  The tricky part is to get the semantics of iov_iter_advance()
right for them, but it does look feasible.

Again, what I propose is a new iov_iter flavour.  Backed by pipe_buffer array,
used only for reads (i.e. copy to, not copy from).  Three states for element:
pagecache one, copied data, empty.  Semantics:
	* copy_page_to_iter(): grab a reference to page and stick it into
the next element (making it a pagecache one) with offset and len coming
directly from arguments.
	* copy_to_iter(): if the last element is a 'copied data' with empty
space remaining - copy to the end.  Otherwise allocate a new page and stick
it into the next element (making it 'copied data'), then copy into it.  If 
still not all data copied, do the same for the next element, etc.  Of course,
if there's no elements left, we are done copying.
	* zero_iter(): ditto, with s/copy/fill with zeroes/
	* iov_iter_get_pages(): allocate pages, stick them into the next
slots (making those 'copied data').  That might need some changes, though -
I'm still looking through the users.  The tricky part is decision when to
update the lengths.
	* iov_iter_get_pages_alloc(): not sure, hadn't really looked yet.
	* iov_iter_alignment(): probably just returns 0.
	* iov_iter_advance(): probably like bvec variant.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-08 23:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <1832555471.1341372.1472835736236.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com>
2016-09-03  0:39   ` xfs_file_splice_read: possible circular locking dependency detected Dave Chinner
2016-09-03  0:57     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-03  1:45       ` Al Viro
2016-09-06 23:59         ` Dave Chinner
2016-09-08 20:35           ` Al Viro
2016-09-06 21:53     ` CAI Qian
2016-09-06 23:34       ` Dave Chinner
2016-09-08 15:29     ` CAI Qian
2016-09-08 17:56       ` Al Viro
2016-09-08 18:12         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-08 18:18           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-08 20:44           ` Al Viro
2016-09-08 20:57             ` Al Viro
2016-09-08 21:23             ` Al Viro
2016-09-08 21:38           ` Dave Chinner
2016-09-08 23:55             ` Al Viro [this message]
2016-09-09  1:53               ` Dave Chinner
2016-09-09  2:22                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-09  2:26                   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-09  2:34                     ` Al Viro
2016-09-09  2:50                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-09 22:19                         ` Al Viro
2016-09-10  2:06                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-14  3:16                             ` Al Viro
2016-09-14  3:39                               ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-09-14  4:01                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-18  5:33                                 ` Al Viro
2016-09-19  3:08                                   ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-09-19  6:11                                     ` Al Viro
2016-09-19  7:26                                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-09-14  3:49                               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-14  4:26                                 ` Al Viro
2016-09-17  8:20                                   ` Al Viro
2016-09-17 19:00                                     ` Al Viro
2016-09-17 20:15                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-23 19:00                                       ` [RFC][CFT] splice_read reworked Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:01                                         ` [PATCH 01/11] fix memory leaks in tracing_buffers_splice_read() Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:02                                         ` [PATCH 02/11] splice_to_pipe(): don't open-code wakeup_pipe_readers() Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:02                                         ` [PATCH 03/11] splice: switch get_iovec_page_array() to iov_iter Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:03                                         ` [PATCH 04/11] splice: lift pipe_lock out of splice_to_pipe() Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:45                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-23 20:10                                             ` Al Viro
2016-09-23 20:36                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-24  3:59                                                 ` Al Viro
2016-09-24 17:29                                                   ` Al Viro
2016-09-27 15:38                                                     ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-09-27 15:53                                                     ` Chuck Lever
2016-09-24  3:59                                                 ` [PATCH 04/12] " Al Viro
2016-09-26 13:35                                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-09-27  4:14                                                     ` Al Viro
2016-12-17 19:54                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2016-12-18 19:28                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-12-18 19:57                                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2016-12-18 20:12                                                       ` Al Viro
2016-12-18 20:30                                                         ` Al Viro
2016-12-18 22:10                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-12-18 22:18                                                             ` Al Viro
2016-12-18 22:22                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-12-18 22:49                                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2016-12-21 18:56                                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2016-12-21 19:12                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-24  4:00                                                 ` [PATCH 06/12] new helper: add_to_pipe() Al Viro
2016-09-26 13:49                                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-09-24  4:01                                                 ` [PATCH 10/12] new iov_iter flavour: pipe-backed Al Viro
2016-09-29 20:53                                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-09-29 22:50                                                     ` Al Viro
2016-09-30  7:30                                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-10-03  3:34                                                         ` [RFC] O_DIRECT vs EFAULT (was Re: [PATCH 10/12] new iov_iter flavour: pipe-backed) Al Viro
2016-10-03 17:07                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-03 18:54                                                             ` Al Viro
2016-09-24  4:01                                                 ` [PATCH 11/12] switch generic_file_splice_read() to use of ->read_iter() Al Viro
2016-09-24  4:02                                                 ` [PATCH 12/12] switch default_file_splice_read() to use of pipe-backed iov_iter Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:03                                         ` [PATCH 05/11] skb_splice_bits(): get rid of callback Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:04                                         ` [PATCH 06/11] new helper: add_to_pipe() Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:04                                         ` [PATCH 07/11] fuse_dev_splice_read(): switch to add_to_pipe() Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:06                                         ` [PATCH 08/11] cifs: don't use memcpy() to copy struct iov_iter Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:08                                         ` [PATCH 09/11] fuse_ioctl_copy_user(): don't open-code copy_page_{to,from}_iter() Al Viro
2016-09-26  9:31                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-09-23 19:09                                         ` [PATCH 10/11] new iov_iter flavour: pipe-backed Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:10                                         ` [PATCH 11/11] switch generic_file_splice_read() to use of ->read_iter() Al Viro
2016-09-30 13:32                                         ` [RFC][CFT] splice_read reworked CAI Qian
2016-09-30 17:42                                           ` CAI Qian
2016-09-30 18:33                                             ` CAI Qian
2016-10-03  1:37                                               ` Al Viro
2016-10-03 17:49                                                 ` CAI Qian
2016-10-04 17:39                                                   ` local DoS - systemd hang or timeout (WAS: Re: [RFC][CFT] splice_read reworked) CAI Qian
2016-10-04 21:42                                                     ` tj
2016-10-05 14:09                                                       ` CAI Qian
2016-10-05 15:30                                                         ` tj
2016-10-05 15:54                                                           ` CAI Qian
2016-10-05 18:57                                                             ` CAI Qian
2016-10-05 20:05                                                               ` Al Viro
2016-10-06 12:20                                                                 ` CAI Qian
2016-10-06 12:25                                                                   ` CAI Qian
2016-10-06 16:11                                                                     ` CAI Qian
2016-10-06 17:00                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-06 18:12                                                                         ` CAI Qian
2016-10-07  9:57                                                                         ` Dave Chinner
2016-10-07 15:25                                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-07  7:08                                                                     ` Jan Kara
2016-10-07 14:43                                                                       ` CAI Qian
2016-10-07 15:27                                                                         ` CAI Qian
2016-10-07 18:56                                                                           ` CAI Qian
2016-10-09 21:54                                                                             ` Dave Chinner
2016-10-10 14:10                                                                               ` CAI Qian
2016-10-10 20:14                                                                                 ` CAI Qian
2016-10-10 21:57                                                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2016-10-12 19:50                                                                                   ` [bisected] " CAI Qian
2016-10-12 20:59                                                                                     ` Dave Chinner
2016-10-13 16:25                                                                                       ` CAI Qian
2016-10-13 20:49                                                                                         ` Dave Chinner
2016-10-13 20:56                                                                                           ` CAI Qian
2016-10-09 21:51                                                                         ` Dave Chinner
2016-10-07  9:27                                                                   ` Dave Chinner
2016-10-03  1:42                                             ` [RFC][CFT] splice_read reworked Al Viro
2016-10-03 14:06                                               ` CAI Qian
2016-10-03 15:20                                                 ` CAI Qian
2016-10-03 21:12                                                   ` Dave Chinner
2016-10-04 13:57                                                     ` CAI Qian
2016-10-03 20:32                                                 ` CAI Qian
2016-10-03 20:35                                                   ` Al Viro
2016-10-04 13:29                                                     ` CAI Qian
2016-10-04 14:28                                                       ` Al Viro
2016-10-04 16:21                                                         ` CAI Qian
2016-10-04 20:12                                                           ` Al Viro
2016-10-05 14:30                                                             ` CAI Qian
2016-10-05 16:07                                                               ` Al Viro
2016-09-09  2:31                   ` xfs_file_splice_read: possible circular locking dependency detected Al Viro
2016-09-09  2:39                     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-09  2:26                 ` Al Viro
2016-09-09  2:19               ` Al Viro
2016-09-08 18:01       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-08 20:39         ` CAI Qian
2016-09-08 21:19           ` Dave Chinner
2016-09-08 21:30             ` Al Viro

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