From: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Carlos Maiolino <cmaiolino@redhat.com>, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] Release buffer locks in case of IO error
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 10:54:13 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160930145413.GB27528@bfoster.bfoster> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160930000147.GH27872@dastard>
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 10:01:47AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 03:03:19PM +0200, Carlos Maiolino wrote:
> > I have been working in a bug still regarding xfs fail_at_unmount configuration,
> > where, even though the configuration is enable, an unmount attempt will still
> > hang if the AIL buf items are locked as a result of a previous failed attempt to
> > flush these items.
> >
> > Currently, if there is a failure while trying to flush inode buffers to disk,
> > these items are kept in AIL with FLUSHING status and with the locks held, making
> > them unable to be retried. Either during unmount, where they will be retried and
> > 'failed', or if using a thin provisioned device, the pool is actually extended, to
> > accomodate these not-yet-flushed items, instead of retrying to flush such items,
> > xfs is unable to retry them, once they are already locked.
>
> [....]
>
So this was originally written simply as a hack/experiment to test a
theory about what could be going wrong here, based on Carlos'
investigation so far into the issue. It wasn't really intended to be
posted as a proposed fix, so I'm going to skip over the details...
...
>
> Ok, I'm pretty sure that this just addresses a symptom of the
> underlying problem, not solve the root cause. e.g. dquot flushing
> has exactly the same problem.
>
Agree.
> The underlying problem is that when the buffer was failed, the
> callbacks attached to the buffer were not run. Hence the inodes
> locked and attached to the buffer were not aborted and unlocked
> when the buffer IO was failed. That's the underlying problem that
> needs fixing - this cannot be solved sanely by trying to guess why
> an inode is flush locked when walking the AIL....
>
Are you making the assumption that the filesystem is already shutdown in
this scenario? I assume so, otherwise I'm not sure simply running the
callbacks (that remove items from the AIL) is really appropriate.
My _unconfirmed suspicion_ is that the core problem is that any log
items that are flush locked upon AIL push remain flush locked in the
event of I/O error (independent of fs shutdown, which is not guaranteed
after a metadata I/O error). E.g., consider the case of a transient
error or error configuration that expects more than one retry cycle
through xfsaild. IOW, the current AIL error retry mechanism doesn't work
for flush locked items.
(FWIW, another experiment I was thinking about was an optional
error-specific log item callback that would be specified and invoked in
the event of any metadata I/O error to release things like flush locks
and prepare for another retry, but I think that is complicated by the
fact that the in-core struct has already been flushed to the buffer.)
But stepping back from all that, this is just a theory based on Carlos'
investigation so far and could easily be wrong. I haven't debugged the
issue and so I'm not totally confident I actually understand the root
cause. As such, I'm not sure it's worth getting further into the weeds
until we have a root cause analysis.
Carlos,
Unless you completely disagree and are confident you have a handle on
the problem (in which case you can just ignore me and send a new patch
:), I'd suggest that what we probably need here is a detailed writeup of
the root cause. E.g., a step by step progression of what happens to the
log item in relation to the I/O errors and shutdown (if one actually
occurs), preferably backed by tracepoint data. Just my .02.
Brian
> Cheers,
>
> Dave.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-09-30 14:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-29 13:03 [PATCH] [RFC] Release buffer locks in case of IO error Carlos Maiolino
2016-09-30 0:01 ` Dave Chinner
2016-09-30 9:14 ` Carlos Maiolino
2016-09-30 9:37 ` Carlos Maiolino
2016-09-30 14:54 ` Brian Foster [this message]
2016-10-01 0:21 ` Dave Chinner
2016-10-01 13:27 ` Brian Foster
2016-10-03 14:03 ` Carlos Maiolino
2016-10-03 22:08 ` Dave Chinner
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-09-29 13:00 Carlos Maiolino
2016-09-29 13:04 ` Carlos Maiolino
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