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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>
Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, jack@suse.com, jeffm@suse.com,
	okurz@suse.com, lpechacek@suse.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] mkfs.xfs: add mkfs.xfs.conf support
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 15:56:15 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170304045615.GL17542@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6de0c7e4-8d20-ea90-fc49-d47a787e3939@sandeen.net>

On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 09:49:58PM -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> On 3/3/17 5:13 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > This series adds mkfs.xfs.conf support, so that options can now be
> > shoved into a configuration file. This enables certain defaults to be
> > saved for folks sticking to certain values, but more importantly it
> > also enables distributions to override certain defaults so that new
> > filesystems remain compatible with older distributions.
> > 
> > This has been based on top of xfsprogs-dev v4.9.0-rc1.
> > 
> > Given we already have an existinsg infrastructure to validate argument
> > values this reuses that infrastructure by first adding helpers and porting
> > over the argument parsing suppor to use these helpers.
> 
> I'm not necessarily the final word on this, but I have to say
> I'm not a huge fan of having mkfs config files.  I've lived 
> through that in mke2fs land, and my personal feeling is that
> it can lead to confusion when distros start shipping config
> files with different defaults than upstream ships in the
> code itself.
> 
> I guess I can see the argument for shipping old/compatible
> defaults with newer progs and older kernels, but by the
> time a distro ships a custom old default config file they could
> also patch out the new features just as easily... (which
> is also confusing, I guess ;) )
> 
> After 25+ years of no external config file, I'm concerned
> about principal of least surprise when the same xfsprogs version
> starts behaving differently on different boxes based on a new
> file that popped up in /etc ...
> 
> At the very least, I would like to /not/ ship or install any
> config file with xfsprogs by default; the code itself should
> be the canonical, single point of truth for defaults for a stock
> "make && make install" installation.

Hence my suggestion of libconfig - it can /write config files/ based
on the current mkfs config. So there's no need to ship default
config files - if a user wants a special config they can use mkfs to
generate it and they can install it appropriately.

e.g. 'mkfs -W <options>' outputs a config file to stdout that
matches the config specified on the command line, but does not make
the filesystem (similar to the "-n" option). If no options are
specified, the default config is emitted....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-04  5:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-03 23:13 [PATCH 0/9] mkfs.xfs: add mkfs.xfs.conf support Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-03-03 23:13 ` [PATCH 1/9] mkfs.xfs: add helper to parse command line options Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-03-03 23:13 ` [PATCH 2/9] mkfs.xfs: move dopts to struct mkfs_xfs_opts Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-03-03 23:13 ` [PATCH 3/9] mkfs.xfs: move iopts to " Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-03-03 23:13 ` [PATCH 4/9] mkfs.xfs: move lopts " Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-03-03 23:13 ` [PATCH 5/9] mkfs.xfs: move mopts " Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-03-03 23:13 ` [PATCH 6/9] mkfs.xfs: move nopts " Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-03-03 23:13 ` [PATCH 7/9] mkfs.xfs: move ropts " Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-03-03 23:13 ` [PATCH 8/9] mkfs.xfs: use parse_subopts() to parse sopts Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-03-03 23:13 ` [PATCH 9/9] mkfs.xfs: add mkfs.xfs.conf parse support Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-03-03 23:55   ` Dave Chinner
2017-03-09  5:38   ` Eric Sandeen
2017-03-03 23:24 ` [PATCH 0/9] mkfs.xfs: add mkfs.xfs.conf support Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-03-04  3:49 ` Eric Sandeen
2017-03-04  4:56   ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2017-03-06  0:08     ` Eric Sandeen
2017-03-07 20:07       ` Jeff Mahoney
2017-03-07 20:09         ` Eric Sandeen
2017-03-06  8:50   ` Jan Kara
2017-03-09  0:16 ` Eric Sandeen
2017-03-09  0:51   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-03-09  4:41     ` Eric Sandeen
2017-03-09 10:12       ` Jan Tulak
2017-03-09 14:31         ` Eric Sandeen
2017-03-09 15:21           ` Jan Tulak
2017-03-09 17:57       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-03-09 22:34         ` Dave Chinner
2017-04-24  5:00           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-04-24  7:26             ` Jan Tulak
2017-04-24  8:25               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-11 22:46                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-11 22:57                   ` Eric Sandeen
2017-05-11 23:08                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-12  0:48                       ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-05-12 16:05                       ` Eric Sandeen
2017-05-12 17:03                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-12 17:05                         ` Jeff Mahoney
2017-05-12 17:30                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-11 23:00                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-05-11 23:19                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez

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