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From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Carlos Maiolino <cmaiolino@redhat.com>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] xfs: Properly retry failed inode items in case of error during buffer writeback
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 17:25:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170621152517.GA21846@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170621101049.GB28914@bfoster.bfoster>

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 06:10:52AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 08:05:05PM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 01:20:41PM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 06:52:04PM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 06:59:05AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > > > It hasn't seemed necessary to me to take that approach given the lower
> > > > > prevalence of the issue 
> > > > 
> > > > Of this issue? I suppose its why I asked about examples of issues, I seem
> > > > to have found it likely much more possible out in the wild than expected.
> > > > It would seem folks might be working around it somehow.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > If we're talking about the thin provisioning case, I suspect most people
> > > work around it by properly configuring their storage. ;)
> > 
> > The fact that we *hang* makes it more serious, so even if folks misconfigured
> > storage with less space it should be no reason to consider hangs any less
> > severe. Specially if it seems to be a common issue, and I'm alluding to the
> > fact that this might be more common than the patch describes.
> > 
> 
> My point is simply that a hang was a likely outcome before the patch
> that introduced the regression as well, so the benefit of doing a proper
> revert doesn't clearly outweigh the cost.

Sure agreed.

> Despite what the side effect
> is, the fact that this tends to primarily affect users who have thin
> volumes going inactive also suggests that this can be worked around
> reasonably well enough via storage configuration. This all suggests to
> me that Carlos' current approach is the most reasonable one. 

OK thanks.

> I'm not following what the line of argument is here. Are you suggesting
> a different approach? If so, based on what use case/reasoning?

No, it just seemed to me you were indicating that the hang was not that serious
of an issue given you could work around it with proper storage configuration.
I see now you were using that analogy just to indicate it was also an issue
before so the revert is with merit.

  Luis

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-21 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-16 10:54 [PATCH 0/2 V4] Resubmit items failed during writeback Carlos Maiolino
2017-06-16 10:54 ` [PATCH 1/2 V4] xfs: Add infrastructure needed for error propagation during buffer IO failure Carlos Maiolino
2017-06-19 13:48   ` Brian Foster
2017-06-20  7:15     ` Carlos Maiolino
2017-06-16 10:54 ` [PATCH 2/2] xfs: Properly retry failed inode items in case of error during buffer writeback Carlos Maiolino
2017-06-16 11:06   ` Carlos Maiolino
2017-06-16 18:35   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-16 19:24     ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-06-16 19:37       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-16 19:45         ` Eric Sandeen
2017-06-19 10:59           ` Brian Foster
2017-06-20 16:52             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-20 17:20               ` Brian Foster
2017-06-20 18:05                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-21 10:10                   ` Brian Foster
2017-06-21 15:25                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2017-06-20 18:38                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-20  7:01     ` Carlos Maiolino
2017-06-20 16:24       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-21 11:51         ` Carlos Maiolino
2017-06-19 13:49   ` Brian Foster
2017-06-19 15:09     ` Brian Foster
2017-06-19 13:51 ` [PATCH 0/2 V4] Resubmit items failed during writeback Brian Foster
2017-06-19 17:42   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-06-19 18:51     ` Brian Foster
2017-06-21  0:45       ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-06-21 10:15         ` Brian Foster
2017-06-21 11:03           ` Carlos Maiolino
2017-06-21 11:51             ` Brian Foster
2017-06-21 16:54               ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-06-22 12:05                 ` Carlos Maiolino
2017-06-22 12:40                   ` Brian Foster
2017-06-30 11:09                     ` Carlos Maiolino
2017-06-30 11:33                       ` Brian Foster
2017-06-30 12:22                         ` Carlos Maiolino
2017-06-30 17:01                           ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-07-03  8:37                             ` Carlos Maiolino
2017-06-21 16:45             ` Darrick J. Wong
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-05-11 13:57 [PATCH 0/2] " Carlos Maiolino
2017-05-11 13:57 ` [PATCH 2/2] xfs: Properly retry failed inode items in case of error during buffer writeback Carlos Maiolino
2017-05-11 15:32   ` Eric Sandeen
2017-05-12  8:19     ` Carlos Maiolino
2017-05-11 17:08   ` Brian Foster
2017-05-12  8:21     ` Carlos Maiolino
2017-05-12 11:37       ` Brian Foster
2017-05-17 11:47         ` Carlos Maiolino
2017-05-17  0:57   ` Dave Chinner
2017-05-17 10:41     ` Carlos Maiolino
2017-05-19  0:22       ` Dave Chinner
2017-05-19 11:27         ` Brian Foster
2017-05-19 23:39           ` Dave Chinner
2017-05-20 11:46             ` Brian Foster
2017-05-21 23:19               ` Dave Chinner
2017-05-22 12:51                 ` Brian Foster
2017-05-23 11:23                   ` Dave Chinner
2017-05-23 16:22                     ` Brian Foster
2017-05-24  1:06                       ` Dave Chinner
2017-05-24 12:42                         ` Brian Foster
2017-05-24 13:26                           ` Carlos Maiolino
2017-05-24 17:08                             ` Brian Foster

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