From: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xfs: remove "no-allocation" reservations for file creations
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 17:57:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170824005736.GE4796@magnolia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170824004755.GC21024@dastard>
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 10:47:55AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 01:22:13PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 10:24:04AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > If we create a new file we will need an inode, and usually some metadata
> > > in the parent direction. Aiming for everything to go well despite the
> > > lack of a reservation leads to dirty transactions cancelled under a heavy
> > > create/delete load. This patch removes those nospace transactions, which
> > > will lead to slightly earlier ENOSPC on some workloads, but instead
> > > prevent file system shutdowns due to cancelling dirty transactions for
> > > others.
> > >
> > > A customer could observe assertations failures and shutdowns due to
> > > cancelation of dirty transactions during heavy NFS workloads as shown
> > > below:
> >
> > Looks ok... but is there a xfstest somewhere that can be coaxed into
> > reproducing this? I'm looking at what this code does and have been
> > wondering why it even tries this weird workaround in the first place?
>
> Because back in 1997 SGI had a customer that didn't like getting
> ENOSPC being reported trying to rename file near ENOSPC when df said
> the filesystem had <some tiny amount> of space available and the
> directory blocks weren't full:
>
> commit f5029ed542697e8daf728b57d8fec0d9f1abc66c
> Author: Doug Doucette <doucette@engr.sgi.com>
> Date: Tue Jul 15 17:54:13 1997 +0000
>
> Add xfs_dir_canenter to check for entering name in a directory
> with no space allocation. Initialize new da_arg field justcheck,
> use it in xfs_dir_node_addname.
>
> commit 9b9c81137b07d40d864e468cf3168f1b55d83c13
> Author: Doug Doucette <doucette@engr.sgi.com>
> Date: Fri Jul 11 16:33:02 1997 +0000
>
> Make xfs_dir_createname fail gracefully if the total argument is
> 0 and we actually need space. Same treatment for xfs_dir_node_addname.
> Part of making rename work sometimes with 0 space reservation.
>
> > IOWS, the weirdness removed by this patch didn't quite smell right, but
> > at the same time I want to know more about why the smelly weirdness was
> > there at all before I rip it out. Context, anyone? :)
>
> It's always been a crufty corner case. xfs_rename and xfs_remove
> need to be able to operate at ENOSPC where reservations may not be
> possible so they can free up space. However, create/symlink/link
> don't really need to work when so close to ENOSPC we can't get a
> reservation of a few blocks, so I don't see a huge problem with
> this.
<nod> I agree that for rm and rename we might have to do twisted things
to avoid blowing up; it was more that doing so for inode allocation as
part of create/symlink that just seemed ... weird to me.
--D
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave.
> --
> Dave Chinner
> david@fromorbit.com
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-08-24 0:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-21 8:24 [PATCH] xfs: remove "no-allocation" reservations for file creations Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-23 20:22 ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-24 0:47 ` Dave Chinner
2017-08-24 0:57 ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2017-08-29 18:04 ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-09-03 7:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-03 15:31 ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-12-05 1:34 ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-12-05 18:59 ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-12-07 0:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-12-07 0:19 ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-24 12:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-12-07 0:15 ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-12-07 0:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
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