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From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Hou Tao <houtao1@huawei.com>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jeff Mahoney <jeffm@suse.com>, NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>,
	Tso Ted <tytso@mit.edu>, Dmitri Pal <dpal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Filesystem configuration parsers - (was: Re: [RESEND][PATCH] xfs: add online uevent for mount operation)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 03:20:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170825012001.GY27873@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170825010155.GK21024@dastard>

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:01:55AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 08:04:41PM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > While all this is nice, I'm sure we're all aware of the dangers of setting
> > things in stone through sysfs, its likely already decided for the above
> > tunables, but adding a uevent *is* yet another layer of user interface
> > which userspace can *expect* and we should be certain we want this so
> > we won't regress userspace later.
> > 
> > Just saying, we better damn be sure this is the way we want to go.
> 
> I'm not sure what you are trying to warn us about? :/
> 
> These are events on an XFS specific kobj, it's not a generic VFS
> filesystem event we are generating here. It's no different from a
> hardware device generating it's own uevents to tell userspace
> something changed in the device.

I meant that once its sent even if it is XFS specific, it will be
something that some userspace can expect and then we'd always have
to send it later.

> A quick grep would have told you that GFS2 already has it's own
> online/offline uevents (e.g. gfs2_online_uevent()), as does the
> DLM code. Orangefs seems to use quite a few of uevent notifications,
> too. So it's not like we're doing something controversial or unique
> here, nor something that locks us out of a non-existent VFS event
> notification mechanism.

I don't think its controversial *at all*. Just that a mount uevent,
with uuid, sounds like something we could at least agree is pretty generic.

Regardless of what we end up doing with it or how.

  Luis

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-25  1:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-24 13:41 [RESEND][PATCH] xfs: add online uevent for mount operation Hou Tao
2017-08-24 17:10 ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-24 18:04   ` Filesystem configuration parsers - (was: Re: [RESEND][PATCH] xfs: add online uevent for mount operation) Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-08-24 18:13     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-08-24 18:59     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-08-24 22:11     ` NeilBrown
2017-08-24 22:39       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-08-24 23:34       ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-08-25  0:02         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-08-25  4:54         ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-25  1:01     ` Dave Chinner
2017-08-25  1:20       ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2017-08-25  2:18         ` Dave Chinner
2017-08-25  5:29           ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-25  0:27   ` [RESEND][PATCH] xfs: add online uevent for mount operation Dave Chinner

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