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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Richard Wareing <rwareing@fb.com>
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, david@fromorbit.com, darrick.wong@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] XFS real-time device tweaks
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2017 01:56:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170903085602.GF32385@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170902224145.1291030-1-rwareing@fb.com>

On Sat, Sep 02, 2017 at 03:41:42PM -0700, Richard Wareing wrote:
> - Replaced rtdefault with rtdisable, this yields similar operational
> benefits when combined with the existing mkfs time setting of the inheritance
> flag on the root directory.  Allows temporary disabling of real-time allocation
> without having to walk entire FS to remove flags (which could be time consuming).
> I still don't think it's super obvious to an admin the real-time flag was put
> there at mkfs time (vs. rtdefault being in mount flags), but this gets me
> half of what I'm after.

I still don't understand this option.  What is the use case of
dynamically switching on/off these default to the rt device?

> - rtfallocmin no changes, need to think more about this.  Still a pretty big
> fan of this option for reasons already stated; at least until a more elegant
> solution such as preferred AGs (we'd need a tunable size for the "preferred"
> AG, since our SSD partitions are a fraction of the size of a normal AG) can 
> be implemented.  The only other idea I have is to make a new ioctl e.g. 
> "norealtime", which causes the RT bits to stay cleared regardless of 
> inheritance bits on the containing directory.  This would allowing the 
> "steering" of files to the data device (e.g. SSD); this is probably a safer 
> design than defaulting to SSD and steering to the HDD via the realtime ioctl.  

Jens just added a nice new fcntl to declare the life time of write
streams (and in theory can add other I/O hints).

How about a a mount option that moves all I/O with a given hint
to the RT device?  E.g. rt=longlife would direct I/O on a file
with an rw hint of RWH_WRITE_LIFE_LONG or RWH_WRITE_LIFE_EXTREME to the
RT subvolume as long as there aren't any previous extents.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-09-03  8:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-02 22:41 [PATCH v2 0/3] XFS real-time device tweaks Richard Wareing
2017-09-02 22:41 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] fs/xfs: Add rtdisable option Richard Wareing
2017-09-02 22:41 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] fs/xfs: Add real-time device support to statfs Richard Wareing
2017-09-03  8:49   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-02 22:41 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] fs/xfs: Add rtfallocmin mount option Richard Wareing
2017-09-03  8:50   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-03 22:04     ` Richard Wareing
2017-09-03  8:56 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2017-09-03 22:02   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] XFS real-time device tweaks Richard Wareing
2017-09-06  3:44     ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-06  6:54       ` Richard Wareing
2017-09-06 11:19         ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-06 11:43         ` Brian Foster
2017-09-06 12:12           ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-06 12:49             ` Brian Foster
2017-09-06 23:29               ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-07 11:58                 ` Brian Foster

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