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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>
Cc: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Nikolay Borisov <nborisov@suse.com>,
	eguan@redhat.com, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	fstests@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7] generic: initial fiemap range query test
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 09:16:03 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171206221603.GH5858@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <61675ab2-0943-e5d7-8c94-247d3ef68a05@sandeen.net>

On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 04:01:58PM -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> On 12/6/17 3:57 PM, Dave Chinner wrote:
> 
> > There's a *simple answer* to this problem: fix the new command's
> > output.
> > 
> > That is: the user asked for a specific range, so the command itself
> > should trim the map returned by the kernel to only display the exact
> > range the user asked for.  Then it doesn't matter if the underlying
> > filesystem trims the extents or not, because the we're going to do
> > that anyway in userspace.
> 
> I have a different opinion:
> 
> xfs_io is a debugging tool; the fiemap command sends an ioctl to the kernel.
> 
> Ranged fiemap queries are a real thing; you put numbers into the kernel,
> and you get numbers out of the kernel.
> 
> IMNSO, xfs_io should present to the user /what the kernel returned/,
> and not re-interpret it to fit some other notion of correctness if we
> don't like what the kernel told us.

I hardly think "trimming to the range the user asked for" is
"re-interpreting what the kernel told us". It's limiting output
range to exactly what the user asked for - the output is still
correct regardless of how it's filtered to match what the user asked
for....

> If you want to have some user-friendlier behavior where xfs_io layers
> behaviors on top of what the kernel provides, then add a "-t" argument for trim,
> but hiding ioctl inconsistencies by filtering them through xfs_io sounds
> like the wrong approach to me.

Just filter the last output in the test, then, so it looks like

2: [128..XXX] data

There is absolutely no excuse for creating multiple tests to support
a small difference in trailing extent range output from different
filesystem.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-06 22:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-30 16:05 [PATCH v7] generic: initial fiemap range query test Nikolay Borisov
2017-12-05  8:24 ` Eryu Guan
2017-12-05 16:51   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-12-06  8:28     ` Eryu Guan
2017-12-06 17:45 ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-12-06 20:51   ` Nikolay Borisov
2017-12-06 21:06     ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-12-06 21:57       ` Dave Chinner
2017-12-06 22:01         ` Eric Sandeen
2017-12-06 22:16           ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2017-12-06 22:22             ` Eric Sandeen
2017-12-06 22:46             ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-12-06 23:01               ` Eric Sandeen
2017-12-07  6:55               ` Nikolay Borisov
2017-12-15  8:33 ` Nikolay Borisov
2017-12-15  8:41   ` Eryu Guan

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