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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>
Cc: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	sandeen@redhat.com, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] xfsprogs-4.17: mkfs config file enhancements
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 15:08:44 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180614050844.GK10363@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c4ae2aaf-ee28-5c35-b3f5-ffe8a57d3c01@sandeen.net>

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 11:23:09PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> On 6/13/18 11:06 PM, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > With this change, we'll have code to maintain it to ensure that the
> > file gets updated properly, and it will probably take more time and
> > effort to validate that the generated file is correct (and debug if
> > it's not!) compared to the 30s it will take to hand edit the
> > template file to change or add a new default...
> 
> Well, yeah.  /if/ we need a template, as well as text in a man page,
> then this gets it down to editing 1 file instead of two, I guess.
> But it really seems like we need to rethink these structures to get it
> all tied together, not requiring 2 or 3 manual updates across several files.
> It's bound to get out of sync.  I guess that can wait, but right now this
> dispersal isn't good.

So let's get the basic conig file stuff in first, then cosolidate,
then add all the bells and whistles.

Too many cooks trying to add all their own bells and whistles before
the core behaviour, infrastructure and implementation was nailed
down was pretty much what lead all the tablised CLI option parsing
code. And we're doing it again with this config file stuff...

> > I'm also not convinced we should ship a "default.template" file,
> > either.  I'd much prefer we ship a real config file with all the
> > options defined but commented out as a "start here template".
> 
> As the code stands today, if a 100% commented-out config file
> exists, then mkfs will tell you that it's overriding built-in
> defaults with the config file which contains ... nothing.
> If we ship such a thing by default, that's what will happen by
> default.

Then that's a bug in the new parsing code and needs fixing. :)

> (Actually today it fails to parse and errors out but a patch
> to fix that is on the list).
> 
> I guess we could behave as if "no config file" if a config file
> contained no parseable tokens ... but that gets weird too.

Don't see why that is wierd, either - it's pretty common behaviour
for package shipped config files to have all options are present but
commented out.

> Putting a blank config file in place to be parsed by default
> is messy, so a .template approach seems reasonable to me, if we
> need such a thing at all.

If we really need a separate template, then perhaps it should be in
the mkfs config file man page where we document all the supported
options?

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-14  5:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-13 19:31 [PATCH 0/5] xfsprogs-4.17: mkfs config file enhancements Darrick J. Wong
2018-06-13 19:31 ` [PATCH 1/5] mkfs: move build-time defaults to a separate file Darrick J. Wong
2018-06-14  2:34   ` Eric Sandeen
2018-06-13 19:31 ` [PATCH 2/5] mkfs: move config file enums to config.h Darrick J. Wong
2018-06-14  2:51   ` Eric Sandeen
2018-06-14 16:24     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-06-13 19:32 ` [PATCH 3/5] mkfs: hoist mkfs configfile dir string generation to build system Darrick J. Wong
2018-06-14  2:54   ` Eric Sandeen
2018-06-13 19:32 ` [PATCH 4/5] mkfs: emit config file from builtin defaults Darrick J. Wong
2018-06-14  3:05   ` Eric Sandeen
2018-06-13 19:32 ` [PATCH 5/5] mkfs: generate mkfs config file in man page Darrick J. Wong
2018-06-14  3:17   ` Eric Sandeen
2018-06-14  4:06 ` [PATCH 0/5] xfsprogs-4.17: mkfs config file enhancements Dave Chinner
2018-06-14  4:23   ` Eric Sandeen
2018-06-14  5:08     ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2018-06-14  6:29       ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-06-14 17:46         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-06-14 17:59           ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-06-14 18:16             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-06-14 18:35               ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-06-16  0:04                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-06-14 19:05             ` Eric Sandeen
2018-06-14 22:22               ` Dave Chinner
2018-06-14 23:33         ` Dave Chinner
2018-06-14 23:38           ` Eric Sandeen
2018-06-14 14:31       ` Eric Sandeen

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